Fact check: Trump makes another round of misstatements during coronavirus briefing

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  1. Pycckia

    Pycckia Well-Known Member

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    I figure it took about 12 hours to travel from China to the US. I don't see an reason to believe that Europe has less support or supplies than Europe and your claim is that the EU has much cannier politicians than Trump, who is evil.

    When the US has more deaths more deaths per million than Europe you might have some reason to complain. Right now we are fifth behind five highly industrialized European countries.

    With you TDS sufferers the bad stuff is always in the future, and when the future comes the bad stuff hasn't actually happened.

    Why is that?
     
  2. WillReadmore

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    If you're interested, you need to identify what you think is opinion and/or what is not facual.
     
  3. AmericanNationalist

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    Well, unless you need a ventilator, etc(and the President did declare a state of emergency for Michigan just now), I don't see it as a threat. Yes, ask yourself the question. Why should he help them from his prospective? What does he gain? Thanks? Appreciation?

    From his perspective, what he's dealt with for three years(and if he won a second term, certainly during that term), has been unmitigated hatred. From his perspective, he's finally had enough(my fuse with the situation has blown far shorter than the President's). There's only so much harassments, insults, delays and obstructions when he does try to help that a man can take.

    It's not about 'praising him', it's about people being decent to him. He can't even get that, so he gave them a middle finger(and then he helped them afterwards, to further stick the point to them.)

    Either contribute to the solution(for once) or get out the way.
     
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    Yes - my state has stopeed all discretionary inpatient treatment. We don't have the capacity for it.

    Have you see the spread caused by spring break?

    There is cell phone tracking data that shows how cell phones left Florida when spring break got closed down.

    It's seriously impressive!

    This president is more focused on his own hurt feelings than on fighting COVID. He is ready to PURPOSEFULLY fail to help Americans who don't adequatly praise him!!!

    This is just plain antiAmerican!
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you seriously asking why the American president should help American citizens?
     
  6. HereWeGoAgain

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    YEAH! If they aren't trumpers :rolleyes:

    He actually asked why trump should act as a president if it doesn't help him politically. That was actually his question.
     
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  7. ptif219

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    So you did not read the link and see the Cuomo lies
     
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    Show proof to back it up as my post said
     
  9. WillReadmore

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    What would you like to see a cite about?
     
  10. fiddlerdave

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    Unbelievable!

    If he can't "stand it" anymore, rather than screw up Amrrica in a snit fit, the ONLY decent he should do is QUIT! Geez!
    Be "decent to him"? The SOB is flipping us off? This guy is getting PAID to do a job! (And if he is refusing to take his regular pay, that's his choice. When does that mean he gets to not be a professional? )

    Who is in his way? We have been asking him to supply the needed PPE? We are asking him to coordinate what supplies what we do have! His avoidance and BS is deadly! His repeatedly proclaiming that the pandemic is ending and we can go back to church in a week and a half is insane!

    If he can't be a professional, if he can't handle his job like every other worker in the USA, he needs to quit! NOW!

    What a loser! And his billion-dollar propaganda team can get the hell out too!
     
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    Show proof of what you said in the post
     
  12. ptif219

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    He is doing his job. It is the democrats that are spewing lies. Trump is now receiving shipments from overseas
     
  13. WillReadmore

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    Please state a lie you are referring to.
     
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    Oooh! From his son-inlaw!

    Enough to make enough, maybe, to bring 2 hospitals up to minimal standards!

    Yeah....

    But he has all of us going to church to stand together next week, so why bother to do it right, right?
     
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    Trump is supplying hospitals and he is not getting supplies from over seas. To say he is not doing that is a lie from democrats
     
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    Wrong Cuomo has a warehouse full of respirators. The democrats lie. How is it hospitals needs goes from 20,000 masks to 300,000 make? Seems like these places are seeking an over abundance of supplies

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...y-blames-hospitals-mask-ventilator-shortages/
     
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    Yes, one can't claim Trump did nothing.

    One CAN claim that he's worked AGAINST those fighting this problem about as much as he's worked to help.

    And, there are NUMEROUS strong federal responses that he has totally refused to implement.

    I really think he tipped his hand when he ordered Pence to REFUSE to talk to specific governors he believes aren't "appreciative" enough!!
     
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    No, the 4,000 respirators Cuomo had on hand is nowhere CLOSE to the 20,000 to 30,000 that experts project that NY will need.

    Do you really expect him to wait until they totally run out before trying to meet demand?? Don't you agree that anyone who would do that to their hospitals should be put in PRISON??

    And, YOU link has Trump raving out masks!! Why is our president raving about masks???

    He asks what is going on - even suggesting they are being STOLEN!! What a CRAP insult.

    What is going on is a COVID PANDEMIC, Mr. Trump.

    Then, YOU come along and claim that Cuomo is lying??? Seriously?? Can't you read your own citation???
     
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    Only hateful democrats think that. I say democrats with their obstructionist attitude are the problem. At least they stopped Pelosi from adding a bunch of special interest pork to the relief funding bill
     
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    That is weeks away and by then Fema or HSS will have more. It is just more of the democrats hate for Trump. The democrats can never admit Trump is doing a good job. This hate is why Trump will win in November.

    Cuomo has a warehouse full of respirators
     
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    Really!

    So nurses are having to go all day with ONE mask for ALL of her/his patenta for a shift! When proper protocol says changing EACH mask for each patient each time to protect health care workers and patients!

    The hatred for working people and sick people by Trump is unbelievable!
     
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    I think that is because they have wasted to many masks. It is shown they are asking of 10 times more masks than they used in the past. Something smells fishy like it is more of democrat lies and democrats playing politics with the crisis in this country. We all know how evil and corrupt the democrats are
     
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    CNN is a known fake news organization. Don't drink the kool-aid.
     
  24. fiddlerdave

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    Oh, unbelievable! To not reuse masks is "fishy"? It is a Democrat lying and playing politics with this crisis?

    Before the COVID illness, personell are REQUIRED to use a mask with a high infection person and then throw it away when leaving it away when done with that patient, even to momentarily go to another patient or task!

    I can't belive people have no idea of proper protocol for infection control!

    Ooh, wait, is this you, President Trump? I know you would get on talk shows and try disguise your voice to play try to show you were a rational guy! Well, it didn't work back then, either!
     
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    If you doubt something, then check it out.

    This idea of labeling a news organization as being a bunch of liars and then peretending that is an ANSWER is just plain silly.
     

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