Far-right AfD becomes almost strongest party in eastern german states

The SPD lost 5% since September and the AFD gained 3%. My statement is correct.

I'm not a Leftie, I am a German patriot and I stand up against extremists and at that point i'm not interested wether they are left extremists, right extremists, religious extremists or vegans.

The AFD is no the reborn NSDAP but they're accepting right extremists and they're moving more and more to the extreme right.

Just look a Sobo, he claims to be a member of the AFD youth organisation and their positions are often even more extreme. I'm not sure if Sobo is a Nazi but he's a fascist for sure. Check his posts, you will find racism, insults of other countries and ethnic groups, calling humans "subhuman" (Untermensch, a Nazi word to categorize Jews, Blacks and Asians), swaggering about genetic superiority of whites, cheering about humans being chased and attacked in east German cities, cheering about US soldiers killed by German weapons and last but not least hoping for a right wing leader to clean up the mess he thinks to see in Germany.

 

So was Moses (substitute polygamous for rapist and raping slaves was A-OK)

Which Christians Reject the Bible ?

The problem with your argument is that you conflate being a Christian/Muslim with being a genocidal maniac akin to ISIS/Al Qaeda.

In doing this you harm your own cause (and my cause as well). Shoot your arrows straight.

As soon as you distinguish between an Islamist (which the is the majority of Muslims although not like 99%) and Muslims. No one can defeat your argument.

Further .. by railing on about the Quran/Bible believer in general, you are not targeting the root cause of the problem directly. I agree that these religious beliefs use sophisticated mind control techniques and the religious itself has strange beliefs but, not all Christians or Muslims subscribe.

Further, even for those who do maintain a literal belief, and this is the key point, "There is a difference between 1) having a belief and 2) forcing that belief on others.

If you don't like alcohol .... don't drink ... have you your belief, keep it but, keep it to yourself. There is a big difference between this and forcing others not to drink - through physical violence (Law). This is the line and this is crossing the line.

An Islamist - by definition believes in crossing the line. Belief in Sharia Law theocracy/ forcing religious beliefs on others through law is using physical violence to force your religious beliefs on others. The purpose law is to give the State power to punish those who violate that law = using physical violence to force your beliefs on others.

In targeting the Islamist you are targeting a specific ideology/idea. A particularly evil idea.

Who can claim that it is not evil to force personal beliefs on others through physical violence on the basis of personal whim. No one. Try and take down this position ? It can not be done without using fallacy. No one can disagree without also disagreeing with individual liberty (the foundation of western democracy) and agreeing with totalitarianism.

I have had this discussion with Muslims who are believers in Sharia. They end up going away with tail between legs because there simply is no way to get around admitting that they hate individual liberty and love totalitarianism.

Further - they end up having to contradict the Quran as the Quran states "there is no compulsion in Islam" and it also has the Golden Rule - Do unto others as you would have them do to you/ treat others as you would be treated.

If you don't want others forcing their personal religious beliefs on you through physical violence then, do not do the same to others.

 

Yet a mere symbol of it is forbidden and will result in jail.

 

They can't b/c it's a terrorist, intolerant relgion.

 

I make no difference between Moses and Muhammed.

Also there is no problem with my argument for a simple reason. Islam is not compatible to Europe and Germany. Its like a virus. Its toxic. I want Islam out of Europe. Deported. Hold out. Fight it.
I dont want debate. I dont want tolerate it.

My own state shows clearly that you are wrong. Thüringen has not a single mosque. We also have almost zero muslims. A small group wanted build a mosque in Erfurt and their plans got crushed down. People fought it, poured pig blood in the ground. Sue it, damage the area. And then they stopped and moved away.

I have zero problem to force my personal believe that Germany is for Germans with passion on others.

Tolerance is the last virtue of a dieing man. I have no tolerance.

 

I just gave some heavy weapons that you need to fight your battle ... but you do not realize it

 

Can your weapons kill? If not, they are useless.

 

Absolutely - my weapons kill bad arguments and a destructive ideology. In the war of ideas... a gun will do you little good.

 

I dont think you understand. Thats no war of ideologies. We have border control. I domt want debate with illegals, i want keep them out.

 

It is not the illegals you want to debate. The people you need to debate are the people in Germany who want to let them in.

 

Obviously not in Eastern Germany. Here ist consensus to kick them out.

Our village had one free houseö. When they said they want move migrants in our mayor ordered the house to be demolited. Thats how our village has 0 migrants.

Other cities here block migrants from moving here.

 

Of course you created your own bubble. There have been countless victims of muslim immigrants, whose biggest worry was according to their own comments that their worst fear is that the trail of blood muslims leave behind in Europe could be used against Islamic immigrants or leave the Islam with a bad reputation. As all politicians with the exceptions of the AFD and the journalists immediately emphazized, these mass rapes have nothing to do with Islamic immigrants, but are mainly the problem of the native "rape culture".

Thats the reaction of the mainstream media and politicians. Of course you must deny it, otherwise you would have to face your own pitifulness, letting strangers in that laugh about you, see you as an infidel in hell, live by your taxes and will rape your daughters whenever they are in mood to, laughing even more about you.

And your bitterness about people in Zwickau or Jena, who will not follow your pitifulness must make you really mad. Of course, you can force them to spend their taxes on muslim extremists, but deep inside you feel deeplöy ashamed, that there will not be a mob of 1000 immigrants raping their daughters, because they would lynch them. You would wish so much they would surrender in the same pathetic manner to Islam as you do, because the whole world will see you and people like you as the gutless coward as you are, when they have a healthy community next to you. Yes, the whole world sees how pathetic people like you are, how does it make you feel?

 

You can expect whatever you want. The atricious actions of muslims havent gone unnoticed. It hasnt gone unnocitced that Germany is not in mood to stop them and could be seen as an ally of radical Islam. Just one example, China will no longer give visa to people from Germany with Turkish or Arabic names. They accept that Germany has become a danger to their own security under Merkel.

And yes, your government is supporting Saudi-Arabia too, which supports radical Islam in German refugee camps (in which Christians have to fear for their lives as non-Muslims women are under the constant threat of being raped) as well as in Indonesia, where Christians have to fear for their lives since the Saudi-influence grew (before Indonesian Islam was a rather moderate and more tolerant local variation). For that you supported the war against Assad which would have ended in ethnical cleansing of all non-Sunni groups. You lost, Assad will be victorious and I hope as many as those German convertites, who wanted to help Sunni extremists committing genocide will end up in his hands.

 

- failed immigration policy
- failed energy policy
- failed EU-politics
- failed enonomic policy
- ruined education system

Thats in short what leftists have achieved since the last center (non-leftist) goverment in 1998 ended.

 

Yes and I have no doubt that the AFD will become the strongest party in Eastern Germany, but still right now thats not correct.

 

Nope! Nice try.

 

Why should they? Whenever did Jesus preach to murder the infidels and to take their women as sex slaves to rape them and bear new Christians?

Beside the fact that in Catholicism there is the word of the Pope above the Bible, but that is another and unnecessary discussion.

 

I thought only our yank friends on this board are prone to an alternative reality and bad reading comprehension.
If you reply, you should a) read the comment you intend to reply to, b) understand the comment you intend to reply to, c) reply to the what you've read and not what you think you've read.
Personal attacks like "pathetic people like you" don't make you look intelligent at all. You claimed that the victims of Cologne NYE attacks didn't report anything. That's bullsh**. There are more than 1,100 reports, so victims did report what had happened.
You claimed that they didn't report because that would be considered racist, and that they were even proud not to report (which is complete nonesense that you made up). Those claims of your were simple lies, and I pointed how false they are. You most certainly didn't speak to the Cologne victims yourself.
All the rest of your reply has nothing to do with what I said, it's what you think I said and because I disagree with your false claims, I must be a Merkel supporter and I, personally, am resposible for her policies. How idiotic. Have never voted for her, never will, and I don't like her policies including her migration policies, but I'm sure that's way above your head to comprehend as you have already proven. You should refrain from phrases like "the whole world sees ..." to give your inaccurate argument some kind of weight, it sounds utterly idiotic. Try facts next time and stay on topic. If you cannot do that, don't talk to me.

 

No need to read on, as I have referred clearly to your post which leads to the conclusion that you either dont understand it (which would mean you were as dumb as a toast) or you are not willing to do the same (which would mean you want to confuse the matter due to lack of arguments) ...

As I never claimed that the women did not report the rape cases, I tend to see option one as the most propable, although it is very possible that your inability to reply to my points let you create statements I never made to prove them wrong as you are clearly unable to answer to those I made.

 

You really cannot read. Stay away from me with your idiotic nonsense.

 

Can't you see that this is a bigoted view? As soon as foreigners do something wrong, these wrongs are attributed to the whole out-group by angry, bigoted Germans (and Americans). It's xenophobia, and you really ought to know better than to succumb to it.

 

Dont worry, they committ the most atrocious acts, when they are not foreigners, but the majority in a country they rule. What is bigoted is that any of those Islam-apologist accepts the violence muslim immigrants bring into a country as a positive sign of diversity. Islam-critics, Islam-reformers, women's rights activists from muslim countries, minorities like Sikh, Jews, Armenians and all the others Muslims deny their bare right to exist cannot live a peaceful life in Germany/Europe anymore and Islam-apologists dont care about that, but are worried about the perpetrators.

They dont care that refugee camps have become no-go areas for Christian/Yazidis/other non muslim Sunni refugees who have to fear for their lives in such a camp. These camps are the last stand for Jihadist scum that lost its war against Assad and they dont tolerate "infidels" there.

They dont care about honour killings, marriages with monors and polygamy, all this to preserve their illusion of a multicultural paradise.

 

They, they, they. So much generalizing.

 

I forgot, generalizations are ok, when it comes to portray muslims as victims of either the evil White man from Europe/North America, the fanatic Hindus in India, the barbaric Russians, the sneaky Jews or the cold hearted East-Asians. SPeking in the same terms of muslims as they speak of the infidels is Xenophobia, I must have forgotten.

I make genrealizations when it does not confuse the exemplaric with the exception.

 

"Too fast" is definitely the key, and it may be their undoing: the people might have absorbed an influx of our dear swarthy brethren if it had been done quietly, subtly, deftly. Alas, Mad Madam Merkel brought one million middle eastern savages in almost overnight (ah, those tender signs of "refugees welcome" - such happy memories), and the people finally said "no, ma'am".

https://www.politico.eu/article/afd-surpasses-spd-for-first-time-in-german-poll/

The AFD up from 12% to 16% over a relatively short time span. And that 12% in the election represented an explosion of growth.