FBI arresting people for internet posts

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member

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    Apparently they make exceptions when there are insinuations of terrorism.

    And if you think judges always uphold the Constitution...
     
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    Does that mean that when joining the FBI one surrenders one's ability to know the difference between right and wrong? Or one's obligation to speak out against poor policy?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, there are some things that WILL NOT BE SHOWN on the mainstream TV shows, and some things that WILL BE REMOVED from social media by TPTB. I know a person at Pulse to whom that happened.
     
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    Sure mass murders with bodies pile up are fake by the grandsons of those who faked the moon landings.
     
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    Yes we should do away with the SC and allow everyone to decide for themselves which laws that are or are not constitutional.

    Next any one in the FBI who have severe problems with current laws should do what people in the military do IE resign and then speak out.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's quite a fantastic imagination you show Bill. And a desire to dodge an uncomfortable question.
     
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    What uncomfortable beyond a hell of a lot of dead and wounded children

    In the case of the nightclub a lot of dead or wounded gay men and women
     
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    You offer 2 lines of text, and neither is a sentence. What am I supposed to do with that?

    A friend of mine was there. People died, but she was unharmed. It was a staged event. There were play actors.
     
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    Have to agree with you on this one, Sheriff.

    The FBI or Justice Department can stop anyone from engaging in threats against the peace of society under other circumstances, not just for online threats. If someone called in such threats via telephone (or by notes under one's door) their actions can result in a court issued warrant as well. While I share the OP's concern about any possible slippery slope, the government retains the authority to prevent crimes such as terrorism in order to keep society safe (or perhaps, I should use the term safer).

    In doing all this, the government still needs to protect people's right of privacy. This is why it must answer to Congressional oversight through the Surveillance Committee.
     
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    So English is not your primary language.
    It has nothing to do with gay people, other than humorous references that suggest that the militia boyz are very nearly "gay FOR" their ammunition.
     
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    Let me express about governmental law.

    Just I want the safety to walk street in the town.
     
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    This post sounds like it might have been from the script of "Minority Report" with Tom Cruise. Beyond Orwellian.
     
  13. Mr_Truth

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    Rather than criticize, can you at least try to prove any "flaws" you perceive in it and offer alternatives?
    Do try at the very least.
     
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    Sure, you bet.

    I would agree that the government has the necessary legal authority on paper to "prevent crimes such as terrorism", as long as it complies with the restrictions placed upon it by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    The pragmatic question becomes "does it have the ability to prevent such crimes?" Is it actually able to prevent such crimes? That is very much in question, indeed, unlikely. That might be one reason the government spends so much time setting people up to engage in the fantasy of committing such crimes.
     
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    prove this statement.
     
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    Your mind is closed, but here is a brief synopsis.

    My friend was there and unharmed. She observed, and posted to FB that she saw 2 shooters. Within 48 hours her comments had been taken down.

    The play actors were numerous and obvious, from the guy with the US flag shirt blabbing away to any camera that would film him, to 5 guys carrying their "wounded friend" who, after leaving in front of the camera, playfully jumped out of the arms of his friends and walked on. Carelessly, they were carrying him TOWARD the scene of the shooting.

    Much much more, but I'm sure you're not interested.
     
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    So you can’t prove your statement. I didn’t think so.
     
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    <Rule 2> When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the efficacy of our propaganda efforts.
     
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    you didn't provide any facts. You made a baseless assertion, got called on it, and then just restated your assertion. You provided no evidence what so ever to support your claim.

    I examine the evidence and make an educated decision. I don't make moronic, baseless and batshit crazy conspiracy allegations.
    Uh huh
     
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    There have been times when government agents have succeeded in preventing acts of terrorism or organized crime activities. You don't often hear of this news as the government does not want to tip its hand under such circumstances. So long as the government restricts itself to this type of preventive action, that it should be OK with the public. As always, Congressional oversight committees need to be in place to insure that government does not over step its bounds.
     

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