FBI Has 'Overwhelming' Evidence to Indict and Convict Hillary

So Obama's administration wastes hundreds of FBI agents on nothing, releases thousands of criminal aliens to the public, drone murders US citizens without due process, and Hillary is doing all she can to uphold and build on that 'legacy', and you people don't have a problem with that? Wow...

 

I plan on bumping this thread....every month.....


probably until January 2025.

 

Again INTENT has nothing to do with. The mere fact she operated her server over which classified information was being transmitted and stored for the first 3 months without even basic encryption is gross negligence. The fact she refused to use to proper protocols, regulations and the law even after strict warnings from the DOS cyber-experts is gross negligence. That she was directly warned NOT to use an unsecured BlackBerry when traveling in foreign countries and she did is gross negligence.

But you admit she did act with negligence, even though you are trying to haggle over the level, and you know she did all of the above, and you would STILL elect her President?

She had no .gov email address which would have been more secure and she would have been using the secrure SCI system for classified communications which is even MORE secure. Her shadow server did not even have basic encryption the first three months.

It was intended for ALL her official emails which included classified information and as we see was used to transmit and store classified information.

Had she a .gov it would have used the SCI system for classified information she refused to have one.

Prove her home and her server where SCIF certified and maintained by the State Department security people.

Thanks for admitting she did not have a SCIF or use SCI equipment, but it was by choice she had full access to the modern technology used and the electronic records were government property and easily turned over had she not refused to do so.

 

Why? If nothing she did was wrong I would certainly expect her do to it again, have her private shadow server set up in her home and run ALL her OFFICIAL PRESIDENTION emails run through it regardless of the classified information contained in them and then at the end of her term destroy the server and only turn over hardcopies of the ones SHE chooses to turn over.

And when have the Clinton's ever demonstrated putting their "legacy" over personal gain?

And of course Trump will be free to run all his through his trump.com email system and you will have no basis to complain about it.

 

As a matter of fact the reason is

The Anglican Catholic Church as some refer to it as was the result of the Henry VIII split from the RC church. Some RC bishops with the powers of granting priesthood joined the church founded by Henry.

The powers to grant priesthood …once given cannot be revoked.

And within the Church of England the right to marry was a right extended to priests of the Church of England.

Several years back there were a goodly number have left the church who were married priests

who have left the Church wishing to practice priestly duties in the RC church.

RC church recognizes them as ordained priests because the power to ordain priest was passed down from those bishops who remained with Henry....The power to ordain was passed down thru succession.

So when a Anglian priest wishes to be a priest in the RD church they are accepted as truly ordained priests..... some with families

By accepting entry into the RC church...

They can perform the duties as a RC priest …

So this is how come to find some are RC priests are married with families...

I hope my in my own clumsy way explains this for you

 

There is nothing in the law about it being "vital" and she is no allowed the defense that she claims it should not have been classified, had she thought that then she chould have submitted it to have it's classification changed, but as the law is very explict if there is ANY doubt then the it is to be considered classified and this is BORN classified information. And SHE is the one who set up the shadow server so as not to be transparent show what exactly are you talking about?

No that is gross negligence, just the first three months of operation CLEARLY demonstrates the gross negligence and it doesn't require it ACTUALLY put the nation at risk or that is was sent to people who should not be seeing it although Blumenthal was certainly not supposed to see it especially after she was specifically told by the President not to share official information with him,

Already showed you where the former head litigator for the national archives said otherwise and you have yet to refute. But thanks for showing you have nothing to mitigate what we already know she did.

Then why do we already know she maintained a private shadow server in violation of the regulations and the law for record retention and archiving. Why do we know she lied about there being NO classified information on that server. Why do we know she refused to operate under the security protocols in which she was trained and repeatedly warned about by the government security experts? Why do we know she transmitted and stored signals intelligence on and through that server. Why do we know she inserted or most highly classified information into emails and transmitted those emails out of her unsecured non-SCI server?

That's just the start.

And where have I been wrong before?

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Yes, he basically said the same. I just had never heard of that.

 

To say they aren't is absurd and we know she had extremely sensitive materials in her emails and that they were placed into the world wide web exposed to thousands of hackers. How many people had access to the Petraeus notebooks and which ones did not have the security clearances to view them?

 

There's no evidence anyone had access to Hillary's emails or anyone without proper security clearance read them. That's another problem you guys have. Not only is there no evidence of someone viewing information they shouldn't be viewing, but there is very circumstantial evidence on what "classified" information is on the server. Only 100 emails had classified snippets out of 50k+ pages... lmao. And most of those were sent to .gov email address. So .2% of her emails had what they deem as classified information. Yea, she definitely was trading secrets on her secret server, lmao. You're going to be disappointed again when you are wrong like every other scandal you have posted about since you've been here. Absolutely nothing will happen to Hillary based on the information provided so far. They'd have to find something huge for this to be anything more than a... "don't do that again", type consequence.

 

You'll have to show where I don't have a problem with it. AKA, here's a hint, I'm not voting for her OR Trump.

 

Good for you, I wouldn't vote for Hillary either...

 

Can I ask why people are not more concerned with the thousands of emails she admitted to deleting without any oversight of the people? I dont know if she broke the law or not. But I do know that those emails that she did delete could have anything in them. What gives her the right to decide what is or is not private when the emails are on her server for work?

 

Because she's got nothing left after being president....so less need to be so protective. Plus presidents have more control over their records being released.

I don't like that she did it, just don't think it will result in criminal charges. Just like Alberto Gonzales wasn't charged for keeping classified docs in his personal safe at his house.

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Is there any reason to think her server was less secure than the state email server?

 

Clinton emails contained spy satellite data on North Korean nukes

Looks like they did to me.

 

How would you know this classified information? Show me one quote from an actual credible source in the investigation that has stated they found this information. I'll give you a hint, you won't find one, because they don't disclose classified information.

 

The Justice Department said in a court filing this week that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was allowed to delete personal emails from her personal server.

The Justice filing was in a lawsuit brought by the conservative watchdog group Judicial Watch.

"There is no question that former Secretary Clinton had authority to delete personal emails without agency supervision — she appropriately could have done so even if she were working on a government server," the Justice Department's civil division attorneys wrote.

 

They do to the Inspector General OR it's a vast right wing conspiracy.

 

Where's your source of someone from the FBI stating they found this information? Or are you just repeating what you read on conservative blogs that are routinely proven wrong?

 

Clinton will not be indicted unless and until she falls about 10 points behind the RP nominee in internal DP polls. Then she will be able to withdraw from the campaign plead out and avoid jail time. If she fights she will be railroaded into Club Fed. Along with her husband - if they are smart.

 

I am sure they did say that, but you trust her so fully that after her emails are subpoenaed she deletes thousands and says "dont worry those are private,' that it is fine? It is like when a business gets raided and they are shredding documents and they say "its cool these dont concern you." She may have the authority to do something but does that make it right?

 

I think that what many people forget is that the United States doesn't need Hillary Clinton for anything. She's just another of millions of lawyers. Mrs Clinton, to our nation is, in and of herself, an inconsequential thing. But what she has done is the equivalent of a Private, b(*)(*)(*)h slapping a General, ignoring his commands, and telling him to stuff his concerns about sensitive communications. What do you think would happen to that Private?

 

What did an actual judge rule on that filing? Lawyers can say all sorts of things, doesn't make them true or legal...

 

I personally don't care. I think this issue is ridiculous. The only reason to care is if you are on a partisan witch hunt.

 

They were open to the world wide web in text form that anyone could read and it doesn't have to be proved anyone read them for that to be a crime, the crime was complete when she allowed such materials to be transmitted to her unsecured unencrypted server and stored there. You know that is how hackers work, they don't tell you they hacked your server and of course absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence. As has been noted this is one of the few crimes that does not require intent of the actual harm be proven.

I don't have a problem, Clinton and her supporters have a problem and if only ONE such email containing classified information that she caused to be there because she directed all her official emails be sent there and did not maintain a properly secured email address that is one too many and for each one after a separate crime. And over 2000 contain classified information with at least 22 the MOST HIGHLY classified information. THAT is something HUGE although not required.

And she did it willfully and with purpose even after the most strict warnings were given her and against a direct Presidential order and HER OWN order to ALL employees of the state department so why would you ever trust her again with our national security?

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No the only reason NOT to care is your partisan nonsense.

So if Trump wins you will be OK if he does the same thing and uses his exclusive and private, out of government oversight and security, to handle ALL his official emails including those containing classified information and in fact for his entire staff to do so?

 

No they weren't. And it wasn't a crime for her to have a private email server. And you are still making crap up. You have no clue what encryption she had on her server. Please stop lying.

You do have a problem. You've been wrong about everything since I've seen you post. All your ridiculous legal expert posts about Benghazi and Obama, lmao. That was hilarious. You're detached from the real world. Absolutely nothing will come out of this unless they find some serious information that she used to benefit herself in some way. It would take a lot. And they'd already know it, if they had it. This will turn out to be nothing like all the other scandals you were wrong about.

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I promise you, if it were a Republican, I'd care just as less. I don't care about these trivial things. I just like making fun of those that do. I care about substance and things that matter.