FBI Seizes Oath Keeper Lawyer’s Phone in “Seditious Conspiracy” Investigation

And you have something from his speech that makes that true, or are you just making an assumption?

 

It isn’t fake. It is very real.

I am glad one of you finally had the courage to acknowledge the lack of outrage one the right is due to politics however. Sad point in our history.

 

It's toward the end of his speech. He says the Republicans have to get tougher and that they want to play it too straight. "They want to play so 'Sir, yes, the Constitution doesn't allow me to send them [Ed.Note: the certified electoral ballots] back to the States.' Well, I say yes it does, because the Constitution says you have to protect our country and you have to protect our Constitution and you can't vote on fraud. [Ed. Note: No recount or court had proven "fraud" sufficient to overturn the Biden victory. The candidate cannot determine who wins an election.] He goes on, "And fraud breaks up everything, doesn't it? When you catch somebody in a fraud, you're allowed to go by very different rules." [Ed. Note: Where is that in the Constitution? He has determined "fraud." Not the election system; not the criminal justice system; not the Judicial system. Only Donald Trump, the lame duck President, exercising a power he doesn't have.] And, then, " So, I hope Mike has the courage to do what he has to do and I hope he doesn't listen to the rhinos and the stupid people he's listening to." [Ed Note: Presumably, those would be the constitutional scholars and consensus of opinion regarding Pence's inability to return the certified ballots to the states, based on the Constitution and statute law.]

If he was aware that the Oath Keepers were going to break-into the Capitol building to disrupt the joint session, then he would be guilty of seditious conspiracy. At best, he's guilty of abuse of power...as BOTH McConnell and McCarthy admitted on the floor's of the Senate and House the following day.

 

I am not Q-Anon. I watched the speech given that day, watched the videos from it, and read the tweets and other communications sent out before the event.
Not sure what else you could mean. Explanation?

 

You are willfully ignorant or blissfully ignorant. You don't want proof of what you don't want to know, you just try to prove your point, and ignore everything else.
Why are you even bothering to post? Trump was a horrible person/president/husband/businessman/etc. You spend enormous amounts of time defending him.
Are you that emotionally invested that you don't want to face reality?

 

Why do you think so? The Capitol Police are responsible to the Capitol Police Board, consisting of: The Chief of the Capitol Police, the Sergeant of Arms of the Senate, the Sergeant of Arms of the House, and the Capitol Architect. The Board, minus the Chief of Capitol Police, determine the Chief of the Capitol Police. The Majority Leader nominates the Sergeant at Arms in the Senate, who is then voted upon in the Senate. The Speaker of the House nominates the Sergeant at Arms in the House, who is then voted upon by the House. The President nominates one of a list of candidates for the Capitol Architect provided him by a Congressional Committee, with the Senate confirming his nominee, as with any other appointment. The "Capital Complex" consists of the Capitol itself, the surrounding Congressional Office buildings, the Library of Congress and several other buildings.

 

Since I didn't say that the only thing you could come back with the ole I know you are but what am I claim?
Speaks volumes

 

And it was Pelosi who turned down the Sergeant at Arms in the House, and then canned him for political convenience. A move not too dissimilar to what HRC would've done, and like a HRC, she got a pass. But then again, she who ate ice cream during the shutdowns already showed she's a bad leader.

 

You responded “nope” to the question “If trump had won and Democrats tried to stop the certification of the election while calling for Pence to be executed and Democratic leaders were replacing key members of government to set this up would you be shrugging so indifferently?”

Did you not comprehend the question?

 

I see...she was behind it all as shown by the fact she ate an ice cream cone during the riot.

 

Way to get it mixed up, no she was eating ice cream during the shutdowns. Actually telling people what's to be upset about, in one of the most tonedeaf statements you'd ever see from a political leader at a time when Americans were shut off from what they were doing by government fiat(it most definitely wasn't because of the people's fear of the virus, as we all know.)

 

You asked
If trump had won and Democrats tried to stop the certification of the election while calling for Pence to be executed and Democratic leaders were replacing key members of government to set this up would you be shrugging so indifferently?
My answer is no. I wouldn't feel any different to hold anyone accountable any differently.

You little quip comeback was
I am glad one of you finally had the courage to acknowledge the lack of outrage one the right is due to politics however. Sad point in our history.
Never made that claim. Fake response

 

Ah so another reading comprehension issue.
“up would you be shrugging so indifferently?”

You meant to answer yes — I would you insult your own credibility by answering yes to that question as I have seen some of the made up topics you have been outraged over but I will pass on making such observations.

If you really would have been more angry over a group setting fire outside of a courthouse on the side walk vs an attempt to shut down one of the most important functions of our government then you are likely a Republican.

 

Ah...the Covid shutdowns. I think the vast majority of "the people" are afraid of the virus, don't you? What does eating ice cream have to do with it? And, what does that have to do with the January 6th riots?

 

Not its fires outside a courthouse?
How about attacking the SCOTUS building to stop the swearing in of Kavanaugh. Only difference was the Capital police locked the facility down before they got there while we witnesses them trying to kick the door in.
How about attacking the Capital police at the WH injuring 50 officers with rocks and frozen water bottles to the point they had to evacuate the president to a bunker
How about burning the church across from the WH
Or taking over the city of Seattle
Or 8 months of ALLOWED riots that killed hundreds including cops and Americans
Or the billions in businesses being burned to the ground going untouched by any Democrat Mayor in 25 states.

Unlike you I hold them all in contemp. I don't participate in the hypocrisy it takes to claim that only the capital riots with a 150 people could possibly be the only assault against this country.

 

I have held them in contempt and anyone that committed any crime should be likewise charged.

For you to respond like you just did — very emotionally — while shrugging at the attempt to subvert the 2020 election clarifies your narrative.

 

I don't understand your point relative to January 6th? Are you suggesting that the other criminal acts justifies the Capitol break-in?

 

No, as a matter of fact, I hope they all get 20 years. And I also approve of Capital police using deadly force to stop intrusions into DC government buildings housing our elected officials.

What I am saying is this overnight outrage over the one event while ignoring everything that lead up to it doesn't go unnoticed. Killing Americans and cops were part of the peaceful protesting the left not only ignored so it becomes pretty hypocritical to all of a sudden be so outraged given the fact that after several cops and Americans were killed in the BLM riots, as the riots continued, this is what Democrats had to say
Harris said that "protesters should not let up
Rep. Ayanna Pressley "There needs to be unrest in the streets for as long as there's unrest in our lives. And unfortunately, there's plenty to go around,
Maxine Waters "If you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gas station, you get out and create a crowd and you push back on them and you tell them they're not welcome anymore, anywhere,
Nancy Pelosi asking rioters, "I just don't know why there aren't uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be,"

Now we are discussing what politicians say and how they influence people? Hmmmmmm

 

They weren't and they didn't subvert the 2020 election. People aren't responding emotionally, it's a laughing stock that in the United States we have this third world level propaganda, and people think that others care. They don't. This failed leadership needs to focus on the myraid of failed domestic fronts, since it took office.

 

I see...you want to discuss something else.

 

You mean like the left not wanting equal accountability? Yes, thats what I'm talking about.

 

Asking folks to protest is not a crime, contesting an election is not a crime, nothing you described is criminal.

 

Attempt to subvert the 2020 election? And you call others emotional?

 

They wont answer my question, where does one go when you are "not welcome anymore, anywhere". ? Certainly not to the gasoline station!

 

Until Democrats do more than pay a bit of lip service to holding their own accountable, no one not being foolish, will take them seriously. Maybe Trump was just following their lead?