Finally: Court Subpoena For Obamas Original Long Form BC Served To Hawaii Heath Dept

This is confusing Margot to say the least. A born dual citizen of another sovereignty can be a American natural born citizen at the same time. Is that what you are saying? Please be patient with me.

 

He was born in Hawaii which makes him a US citizen..

His father was a British subject of British East Africa which is also meaningless because Obama was born in Hawaii.. Are you still afraid to READ the law?

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

 

It's right there in the first line.
The supreme court does not have the authority to write laws. To change the meaning of a law through misinterpretation would be doing just that.
Only Congress can write laws, And in the 14th Amendment they made the clause that they and only they have the power to enforce the Amendment.

 

I'm sure you would like US citizenship to given out like a door prize. But the Constitution says otherwise.

 

A simple question for Keymanjim resolves the debate over the phrase "subject to the jurisdiction thereof"...

If an immigrant (plain immigrant, not a diplomat) robs a bank in the United States, can they be arrested and convicted under federal law? Yes or no?

If yes, then how do you argue they and their progeny are not "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States?

 

Correct. Which is why they did not change the meaning.

And what did they write, in regard to citizenship? Margot has pointed it out many times and you ignore it (because it, once again, proves you wrong).

It must suck to have to work so hard to maintain your delusion.

 

Yes.. You can be born in Boston and you are a natural born US citizen.. Let's say your father and mother were Irish. You also have the right to claim Irish dual citizenship.

It largely depends on the country.. Sometimes there is an automatic assumption of dual citizenship when an American is born overseas, but if he/she fails to act on it and claim it, the right is voided at a given age ..

I am an oil brat.. I have hundreds of American friends born overseas... who are natural born US citizens and can run for President.

 

Which has nothing to do with anything. His mother was a U.S. citizen and he was born on U.S. soil. He would be a natural born citizen if they BOTH were foreign nationals - just like all the anchor babies who are born to 2 foreign nationals but are automatically U.S. citizens UNLESS THEY CHOOSE OTHERWISE AT SOME TIME IN THEIR LIVES WHICH OBAMA NEVER DID.

 

I am not a birther, but I feel they have the right to speak without all the name calling. I support their freedom of speech...

That's like saying my car needs tires and has for a while, I guess I will ignore it...and ...DRIVE ON GLASS!
He knew we were in trouble, if not he's a dope. He kept spending and he was warned,,,he did nothing...so we were downgraded, when his own administration said we would not be,,,remember? This is why he is the President, to avoid problems,,NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THEM!
He will remain in History as the down graded President, he should have been smart enough to see it and avoid it,,he did neither..He's incompetent!

This is what happens when you pick a President by the color of his skin and not experience and ability...

 

S & P are playing games.. Look at their track record for God's sake. Where is their credibility?

Unlike you.. I watched this mess unravel from the early 1990s so I didn't expect a Houdini.. but carry on.

 

Don't fret. The Republicans might reclaim some legitimacy after they shake off the Tea Party.

 

It actually has everything to do with it. Because is father was a British subject, obama was also born a British subject. Since obama was born with citizenship in another country, he was not born a US citizen.
Again, read the 14th Amendment.

 

Orly Taitz gets another 15 minutes of fame. I love to see her as she melts down. Like Bachmann or Palin on steroids. It's awesome.

 

British law has NO standing in the US.. As an American you should know that much at the very least.

 

So what's the point of the title 8 code of the 14th if parents have no relevance to your natural born citizen status or birth period?

 

Well, he's enough of a President to get us down graded and start another war...maybe instead of Mr President we could just call him Mr Embarrassment.. The man has the intelligence of a 4 iron.....


A broken one...

 

Being born in the US trumps the birthplace of your parents..

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

If your parents are Honduran and Mexican and you are born in the US, you are a natural born US citizen.

That's the law.

All my siblings were born in Saudi Arabia. Their births were registered at the US Consulate.. They are natural born US citizens born to US citizens abroad.

Consider this: There are ONLY 2 types of US citizenship.. naturalized and natural born..

Obama was NOT an immigrant and his parents weren't attached to any foreign embassy in the US so he is natural born.

 

Oh Hey, Appuzo is back. What's with the new name? Your last one get banned?

 

It's not British law. It's the 14th Amendment.
{teeth>braincells}

 

We would not be in this mess if he listened and stopped spending,,,period! Now we will be FORCED to stop spending because of this incompetent. Say what you will, he will be known as the DOWN GRADED PRESIDENT,and we warned you..We said he will ruin us, and he is.

Now,,,do you STILL think we should go ahead with Obama Care?

 

Yes... try reading it .

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

The birthers are such fools.. If only they had asked the questions early on: What is this about and where do I go for accurate information?

But there is a segment of the US population that aren't bright enough to pursue that approach.

 

I remember another post by the keyjim poster that said the father of the 14th Amendment stated you were a natural born citizen born if you were born to two citizen parents with sole allegiance to America. Was he wrong saying that because that contradicts what you have been saying about parents basically are irrelevant when it comes to your citizenship in America? I can't remember what keyjim said his name was but he was a father of the 14th. Thanks for your responses too. I am learning much on this.

 

Just read it..

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode08/usc_sec_08_00001401----000-.html

Yes.. the citizenship of your parents is irrevalent..

Obama had TWO ways to claim natural born US citizenship.. His mother was a US citizen and he was born in Hawaii.

That's what makes the buffoonery of the Birthers such a stain on US education.

 

this is a good example of mindless obot intimidation (soros style). all they have left is squirlly parlor tricks to save the sinking presidency. with the new john kerry obama pelosi reid BLACK MONDAY, it might not matter that the "president" is a complete fraud and forger. a good day for free speech in america it is..

you can only fake bin laden executions, and use crashed helcopters and market crashes as distractions for so long, before the people eventually find out.

 

google something once in awhile margot, there is a lot of correct information on the web, you just have to find it.... or do you mean irreverant ?