Fire can't melt, bend, and warp steel?

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  1. Brother Jonathan

    Brother Jonathan Banned

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    Okay, but the rest of the building is still standing. Explain what you are talking about. There was no global collapse like the WTC buildings. Elaborate please.
     
  2. Ronstar

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    yes, the parts of the building that had reinforced concrete, didn't collapse.

    if the WTC was built with reinforced concrete columns & beams, it too would not have collapsed.
     
  3. Brother Jonathan

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    Show us the documentation. Documentation from NIST, nor the engineering departments of MIT and Purdue, does not count because they are known liars. Steel does not collapse from office fires.
     
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    um, the pictures clearly show that the upper all-steel areas of the Windsor Tower collapsed, while the reinforced concrete sections stood.
     
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    but the pictures clearly show no steel fell off of the manderin

    looks like you got a problem in dodge with your theory.

    I keep telling you people to stop copy pasting crap from dablunder sites, its all pseudo fizix.
     
  6. Hannibal

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    http://www.mace.manchester.ac.uk/pr...Study/HistoricFires/BuildingFires/default.htm

    Fire Damage: Extensive slab collapse above the 17th Floor. The building was totally destroyed by the fire.

    Construction Type: Reinforced concrete core with waffle slabs supported by internal RC columns and steel beams, with perimeter steel columns which were unprotected above the 17th Floor level at the time of the fire.
     
  7. Brother Jonathan

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    A collapse means that the building falls down in a pile of rubbish. The Windsor Tower burned up and still did not fall down.

     
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    The steel framed parts DID.....
     
  9. Ronstar

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    before fire

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    after fire and collapse of upper all-steel section:

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    Read the quote (and visit the link) again.

     
  11. Brother Jonathan

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    Exactly. Gutted by fire. No global collapse.
     
  12. Kokomojojo

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    but the pictures clearly show no steel fell off of the manderin

    looks like you got a problem in dodge with your theory.

    I keep telling you people to stop copy pasting crap from dablunder sites, its all pseudo fizix.
     
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    take another look there is plenty of steel still standing on the windsor how come?





    yeh smoke damage does that.
     
  14. LoneStrSt8

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    Because it was a different construction that ANY of the WTC buildings......jeeze!
     
  15. Brother Jonathan

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    What experience do you have in building construction?
     
  16. Hannibal

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    Seems you keep avoiding this:

     
  17. Ronstar

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    do you have even a bachelors degree in engineering?
     
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    Yes, fire can bend and melt steel.
     

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