Former Prosecutor makes the case that Trump committed treason

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  1. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    End of argument...what a joke your post is..

    The inadequate security is the issue that the committee is suppose to be looking into as that is a legislative branch issue... and not crimes which is an executive branch issue.. how embarrassing that the legislative branch is doing the DOJ's job and handing the reference to what the DOJ should have already been doing..

    We would not be having any "January 6" discussion if the Capitol Police and overseer Pelosi and ilk did the job they were assigned... Ashli Babbitt and Roseanne Boyland were killed by the Capitol Police and their blood is on the Capitol Police and Pelosi's hands... they failed at their jobs... no excuse...
     
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    And we wouldn't be having the discussion if Trump hadn't continued to claim the election was stolen after exhausting his legal options and being told his fraud claims were BS. Even if you are right about Pelosi's negligence, there can be more than one cause for a situation.
     
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    So it just went right over your head... again.... there would be no Jan. 6 if the security was adequate, using the forewarning and the guards that was authorized days ahead of time..
     
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    Do you disagree with the statement, "there can be more than one cause for a situation" in this context?
     
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    You can cut him some slack. No one else needs to do that though. We can call him incompetent, biased and declare that he is engaged in a ridiculous assertion much like yourself.

    No presidential pardon has ever undergone the process or been reversed in the manner you suggest.

    Additionally, folks like yourself have lost credibility with two failed impeachments, “the walls closing in” for half a dozen years on a hundred claims and finally the proof that has arisen showing classic projection along with the actual crimes of the Democratic Party.

    It is Biden funneling money, weapons and blaming all his problems on Russia and the Ukraine. It is Biden who has a laptop showing him engaged in influence pedaling and cash for access. It is Biden

    Dismiss whatever you want. The midterms are coming and no amount of theft are going to steal the results this time.
     
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    Are they still grinding away on this crap? Trump is an egotistical, loudmouthed, shallow person who rarely considers what he is saying until after the words leave his mouth. That is what he's 'guilty' of... not all this other overblown bullshit....
     
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    I agree ""there would be no Jan. 6 if the security was adequate, using the forewarning and the guards that was authorized days ahead of time..""...
    I agree that you do not comprehend that there ""would not be be more than one cause for a situation"" if the security was adequate in the first place...

    Do you think they will ever touch Pelosi in this part of the investigation..

    https://january6th.house.gov/about

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    Of course you’re right it wouldn’t have happened without adequate security. Equally it wouldn’t have happened without Trump’s fraud claims. Can you acknowledge that?
     
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    I don't know that and neither do you... Show us where ""it wouldn’t have happened without Trump’s fraud claims."".. it is only your speculation.
     
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    If you refuse to watch, how would you know it's "overblown bullshit"? :roll:
     
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    If Trump had conceded, there would have been no rally to push his fraud claims at the ellipse on January 6th and therefore no angry crowd to march to the Capitol. Tell me how the riot happens in that case.
     
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    What's NOT speculation, January 6th 2021 would NOT have happened IF:
    tRump would have, after all his legal wrangling failed, would have accepted the result of the election.
    tRump would NOT have called his supporters to DC.
    tRump would NOT have held a rally at the eclipse that morning.
    tRump would NOT have told them to fight like hell or they wouldn't have a country anymore.
    tRump would NOT have had Judy Ruliani running off at the mouth every chance he got.

    The BIG IF that could have prevented January 6th 2021 was the lard ass in the White House, you call 45.
     
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    You can prove not one sentence of it... this is only your opinion.... not fact.
     
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    “Hey Popscott, you’re just speculating that 10.000 troops would have stopped the protestors. You have know way of knowing that to be true.” That’s how silly your argument is. It is in fact basically the same argument: deny something that is blindingly obvious with “Ah but you can’t know for sure”. One thing I do know for sure - this post will make no difference, so I’m done.
     
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    Let's try it .... let's put 10,000 guard and fencing around the capitol and see if it keeps people out.. everyone else but you think it is a good idea... no speculation on my part at all....
    Again... if this picture was taken before Jan. 6 instead of after Jan 6... we would not be having this conversation.

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    Like I said: the post made no difference. Somehow I think you’re sincere but I cannot fathom the level of denial you display.
     
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    LW Dingbat working for the Fake News MSM.
     
  18. Patricio Da Silva

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    Such cynicism.

    Dismissed.
     
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    Your rebuttal is so weak, so anemic, there really is no point in responding.

    I've squashed your premise, totally, utterly, completely, and all you do is repeat it.

    If you had a counter argument to my points, I'd continue with the debate

    But, your response is merely to repeat your points I squashed, and that is when there is no point in continuing.

    No, the blood is on Trump's and his co-conspirators' hands, they are the the ill wind that blows the bellows of Jan 6.

    Your failure to see it is a tale of denial and cognitive dissonance.
     
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    No more than "If Capitol security had been adequate the insurrection wouldn't have occurred". 8)
     
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    It proves, at least, that people in his own administration, people who advocated for him in the past, think he was and is wrong.
     
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    it is proven the guard presence stopped any breach.. sorry you don't see it.. here is the proof...
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    When was that taken?
     
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    Vacuous claims are not a competent argument. We'll just disagree.
    Because no president has been as corrupt as Trump. And most have gone through the pardon attorney, through pardon protocalls.
    Turmp has ignored the process.
    Beyond-the-pale absurd. The senate was controlled by spineless republican's, who were afraid to stand up to trump, his bullying, his mean tweets, they know that a bad tweet from trump would flood their offices with hate mail, threatening phone calls, protesters, and the like, which is what is happening to many in the election apparatus who did not kow tow to Trump's demands. But, of course, this doesn't bother you.
    If crimes really bothered you, you would despise Donald Trump, so, you have no leg to stand on on such an accusation.
    IF you think his laptop is evidence, then you do not have clue what constitutes evidence, but that is par for the course for Republicans, who sued to get elections overturned and their 'evidence' was laughed out of court, even by Judges whom Trump appointed.
    Dems are historically lazy during midterms, so you have nothing to brag about if you win, plus the fact that Biden has had bad luck with the pandemic and the war in the Ukraine, whose inflation, naturally, are going to be blamed by Republicans, because they are liars, almost as much as Trump is.

    But, don't count your chickens, but you might want to remove your blinders, apparently, you can't see.
     
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    (psst: he's not sincere)
     

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