Frightening! Three Masked Teens with Guns Shot Dead by Homeowner in GA w/ AR-15

When I was young every black family had at least a shotgun and a baseball bat. I hope that is still so.

 

Gunbroker is a normal, reputable site. You probably have some sort of filter on your machine, are you at school or something?

They're perfectly legal, though there are onerous hoops to leap through that are set in an arbitrary and capricious manner. https://www.atf.gov/qa-category/national-firearms-act-nfa

That one was about $7k.

 

Just pointing out that New Orleans is blue and always has been. I'm not a republican or a democrat so I don't mind talking **** about the both of you

 

https://looserounds.com/2019/09/19/colts-official-statement/

The official statement says the opposite. You're wrong. Demonstrably.

 

So the inference being that DPMS, Rock River, Bushmaster, Armalite Et al. - do in fact like mass shootings & do want to be associated w/ them... Or perhaps could it be more philosophical in nature where 'sane' consumers and manufacturers subscribe to the notion that arming the law abiding populace w/ these (& other) weapons is the single most consequential step in precluding mass shooting in the first place. The notion that 'inditing, prosecuting & arresting', in essence, a collection of inanimate, mechanical parts is ludicrous for the purposed propose.

Hero Who Stopped Texas Gunman: I Couldn’t Have Stopped Him Without My AR-15
'If I had run out of the house with a pistol and faced bullet proof vest and kevlar and helmets, it might have been futile.'

(personally I think that Colt has been eclipsed by quality manufacturers offering their products at a much better price point, more innovative optioning & superior workmanship) My last few AR-10 actions have been from Aero Precision & I wouldn't trade them for the pricier Colt actions given the option...

 

It might not DRT you with one shot, but one shot center mass is going to put whoever gets hit with it out of the fight.

Besides, why would you just use one. It's the only way to be sure.

 

I think you spend too much time in a crawl space........

 

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60 grain Black Hills v-max is what “lives” in my carry/home AR. Some people don’t think it is a good enough penetrator but like you I’ve put it through it’s paces—it’s good ammo.

I became enamored w/ the 6.5 Grendel a while back & think that it's about the best generically efficient round for the '15' platform; - high BC bullets, velocity, trajectory, terminal energy etc. (& it shares bullets w/ my AR-10 Creedmore, & .260 Rem). Alas, the Grendel never took off like the 6.8 Rem or the 300 blk out, ... I agree w/ you on > 60 grain .223 ammo in faster twist barrels - so long as one's intended target is 2 legged instead of 4 legged, lol...

 

You do realize that to buy one, you have to have fingerprints, a major background check (more thorough than NICS), a $200 fee, and permission from your local sheriff. In addition, you have to pay for the exorbitant cost of them, since the market is limited to those that were in the country before 1986.

 

I had no idea that the requirements were that strict.

 

We are aware that you don't know what you're talking about when it comes to gun laws, but its nice of you to simply come clean.

 

That is false, Reality, but be "aware" as you wish.

 

Been following this story for some time. The news has stated the race of the teens and shown the neighbors (all black), but haven't said anything about the home owner. The family of the delinquents are calling for an investigation of why the people were on their own lawn at 4am, and pretty much trying to deflect blame from the teens.

 

Dude you just said you had NO IDEA about the NFA which makes up a generous portion of the scheme for gun control on the federal side of things.

 

I said I had no idea that the requirements were that strict, not that i "had NO IDEA about the NFA."

You need to be accurate in what you write, my friend.

 

If you don't know the requirements you can't be said to know the law.

 

I’ve shied away from “boutique” calibers because at this point in life I don’t have time to re-load. I have heard great things about the 6.5 other places as well.

My main use is coyote and fox at under 150 yards so 5.56 is adequate anyway. Wouldn’t be ideal for big cats if that ever happens but I’m comfortable with it. I am in the process of setting up a suppressed SBR in 6.8 SPC though. I’m not comfortable with an SBR in 5.56. 300 BO just hasn’t won me over.

For four legged critters larger than coyotes it’s mostly euthanasia for me as I don’t hunt. So any ball 5.56 is fine. Everything has to be simple and mobile so I just keep V-max in the gun and keep ball (55 grain) in spare mags in my mobile office bag and all my vehicles.

Are there plenty of different bullet options for different applications in the 6.5? Thanks for the dialogue, it’s interesting talking to people with practical knowledge on this subject.

 

Google is your friend. That said, I'm always amazed at how anti-gun posters don't know the details of current gun law.

 

That would come with the admonition to the jury that the officer only heard the defendant say something he/she did not witness personally. The statement wasn't under oath, the defendant wasn't read their rights and the defendant was in a state of extreme distress after just experiencing a home invasion by 3 armed thugs he/she was forced to shoot to defend his/her family. The statement isn't going far with a jury.

 

I'm not sure what courtrooms you've been in dude, but words out of the horse's mouth are essentially impossible to get away from.
In fact, for an exception to hearsay (ie it IS hearsay but its considered to be in such a situation that there are strong indicators of truth such as to allow it under cross) that applies to this as well (the others might be witnesses, not co-conspirators) one need look no further than EXCITED UTTERANCE
Ie something said while still under the stress of the moment when you're not considered to have the presence of mind to lie.

For example : "O GOD BILLY YOU SHOT HIM FOR NO REASON" or "O GOD WHY WOULD THEY ATTACK US LIKE THAT" for our hypo or "O GOD THAT CAR JUST SWERVED INTO THAT PEDESTRIAN" for a more generalized example.

Seriously Professor, stick to whatever it is that you teach.

 

The looting and crime that occurred was predominantly in the city. It wasn't in rural areas. New Orleans is predominantly Democrat. Rural areas are predominantly Republican. You can do the math.

Honestly, this holds true for the entire country. People who live in Democrat controlled areas are in general much more likely to be shot than people who live in Republican areas. These facts have been pointed out and cited many times on this forum.

 

I appreciate your kindness and demeanor. But, as surely you know, the United States does not resemble a "war zone." Granted, some small portions of the U.S. may be like a war zone, but 99% is not. In another thread, it was cited that over 50% of murders occur in only 1% of the counties. Parts of Chicago, Baltimore, and New Orleans may resemble a war zone, but the rest doesn't.

That is why many of us believe that restricting us from owning certain arms is nothing more than an encroachment on our liberty and rights.

 

For some reason I live in a democrat controlled area and I haven't been shot nor robbed. I'm not sure your theory holds water.

Most of the county jails in the red areas of the state are at full capacity in most cases, so what does that tell you?

 

Not sure what that has to do with New Orleans during/after a hurricane. I am pretty sure that you are aware that the vast amount of violent crime occurs in Democratically-controlled inner cities.

 

It's good to see you back down from your hyperbolic statement.