Frightening! Three Masked Teens with Guns Shot Dead by Homeowner in GA w/ AR-15

So are you saying you can own ANY weapon you choose to.

 

Fallacy of false assertion by you is obvious, NMNeil. You have created a false scenario. Since your false scenario must be done incrementally, then I ask you post links to the many, many ongoing legislation that must be out there right now.

 

False equivalency.

red flag laws contradict due process, presumption of innocence until proven otherwise. If there is enough evidence / veracity to strip an individual of their most constitutionally 'sacrosanct' property - then just make an arrest & go through the legitimate conviction process.

Not as consequential as the above, however, waiting periods do disenfranchise the consumer in many instances. Perhaps if one is not a part of 'the gun culture' it doesn't make much sense, however, gun shows are about much more than a collection of retailers hawking their 'arms'. It is a social event for most in addition to a purchasing opportunity. People travel from far flung locals to buy & participate in the ticket admission 'event'. Commerce is disrupted if an individual has to travel at a later date to whatever corner of the state the seller is located.

 

Start with a few
https://biologicaldiversity.org/w/n...ng-lead-ammo-go-effect-california-2019-06-27/
https://degette.house.gov/media-cen...roves-degette-s-bill-to-ban-high-capacity-gun
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-07-17/u-s-needs-safe-gun-storage-laws

Slow and steady.

 

(Forgive me, I'm honestly not intending to be snarky here.

Unless you are referring to a break action shotgun (mostly single shots today) the descriptor your likely referring to is racking. I.e. 'racking ' the slide / 'racking' a round', 'Shucking the stick' - etc. The verb used, connotes the specific 'action' of that gun.

Just realize that in your above scenario... the noise of racking the slide conveys an awful lot, to a would be criminal.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/dont-rack-a-shotgun-to-ward-off-bad-guys-guns-for-beginners/

 

Not only that the sound of racking a round gives the armed bandits a reference point where to fire their weapons in the dark.

 

I guess if a psycho gets hold of a gun you are okay with that; extensive training won't prevent accidents from happening due to the high cost; god forbid you lock up your gun in a safe, just leave it on your dresser or in the top drawer so anyone has easy access to it.

Or you can vote Broom party instead.

 

I think that's part of the problem. The countryside is different to the city. I have a property 170km from the nearest police station, what am I to do if someone breaks in? Ring the cops then this guy has an hour and a half to do whatever he wants with my family until the cops show up and slap him with 5 years for rape.

 

At least you have the right to firearms to protect your family.

 

I do not.

I have the right to **** my pants in hope of deterring the rapist. Hopefully he will be disgusted and steal a bunch of **** and piss off.

If I shoot an intruder I am going to prison. Period. They find a way to make an example of you.

 

Well that sounds upside down.

Who's to blame-you or the intruder?

 

Breaking and entering, rape and murder are indeed all serious crimes.

But they don't challenge the authority of the state to the extent self defense does. The state IS the monopoly on the use of force and they will defend this with every ounce of strength.

 

I watched the following:
Rights Without Responsibilities
Rights VS Responsibilities 4:34 version
Rights VS Responsibilities 1:01 version
On Gun Rights
On Rights, Responsibilities, and Victimization
On Responsibility
Meaning of Life, Rights, and Responsibility

Absolutely spot on.

But you realize that Peterson was not discussing the "negative" rights contained in the United States Constitution? He was not saying that I have the responsibility to weaken or give up my Constitutional rights. He was talking about the self-proclaimed "positive" rights of "the right to health care," "the right to a living wage," "the right to housing," "the right to a college education," and all the other "positive" rights declared by progressives.

Essentially, Peterson was stating that the world would be a better place if those who proclaim they are owed the "positive" rights would just shut up and be responsible for themselves. If you want health care, be responsible and go earn it. If you want a house, be responsible and go earn it. If you want a college education, be responsible and go earn it. If you want a living wage, be responsible and go earn it.

He was not talking about the individual's responsibility to the collective. He was talking about the individual's responsibility to take care of himself and his family.

It is somewhat serendipitous that my reply to you in Post 419 above touched on the responsibilities of a person taking care of themselves because it mirrors exactly what Peterson was saying in those videos.

I firmly believe in and defend the "negative" rights outlined in the Constitution, as would Peterson. In the video "On Gun Rights," he stated something along the lines that it would be wrong for a government to have a monopoly on weapons - that if the government can be "dangerous," the citizen also has the right to be "dangerous."

And, I firmly believe, as does Peterson, that each individual should take responsibility for themselves and not be a burden on society.

If what you got out of those videos is different than what I got out of them, I would be interested in your views. And if there is some other video you were referring to, please point it out. Of course, I am quite certain that my take on Peterson's views are correct, because I know that Peterson is in the Libertarian/Conservative quadrant of the political spectrum.

 

Perhaps Bowerbird and Bush Liberal will come to your rescue. You are in Australia, correct?

 

Yes.

I am sure @Bowerbird would have my back. Maybe with some flailing arms and the such, but still.

 

As was stated in Heller, I can own commonly used ones, there are over 20,000,000 'assault weapons' owned by patriots.

 

You really should move to a free country.

 

MAWA.

 

Low blow.

 

That avatar is the Low Blow.

 

Push out the hate and learn to appreciate.

 

Tell that to the man you love and adore.

 

That has always been the DP's raison d'être.

 

Except good ole Ricky is a Republican. Ricky didn't get the memo.

 

Just curious if anyone knows how long that sign lasted and why? I think those facts are important.