Gay Chrsitians: Oxymoron?

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    The "God" that you think exists does not. The actual Source of All that Is created homosexuality for a reason, and has no problem with it. To the contrary, hating homosexuality is worse than being homosexual.

    Wrap your head around that.
     
  2. Junkieturtle

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    I don't see it as any more of an oxymoron than I do the millions of other Christians who ignore what they feel like in the bible. If the rest of you aren't going to follow all the laws in Leviticus, honest to God, how do you have the stones to even suggest that gay people are any more wrong and evil and unworthy of God than you are. You're one and the same, and if you're not going to follow all the laws of the religion you care so much about, you've got no right to expect a single other person to do the same, and you've got no right to tell them they are any less of a Christian(or whatever religion) than you are for not falling in line with the same rules that you yourself don't bother following.

    So if a gay person wants to be a Christian despite being something that the bible apparently frowns upon, join the freaking club where they'll be in the company of a zillion other Christians who don't follow the rules either. I guess some Christians think they get a pass or something, but that others don't?
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    Well, actually Christians don't have to follow all of the laws and rules in the Bible in order to get to heaven (the golden cube). They only have to refrain from doing a few specific things that will definitely bar them from gaining entrance.

    If a person is a fornicator, idolater, adulterer, a homosexual, a sodomite, a thief, a glutton (covetous), a drunkard, a reviler, an extortioner, a murderer, a liar, a sorcerer, or a dog (Gentile?) then he will be barred from entering the golden cube. Everyone else has a chance to make it.
     
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    exactly, if god supported having someone picking up sticks on the weekend as being worthy of a death penalty via stoning, what would that say about that God? God is not like that....
     
  5. 4Horsemen

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    Pack your bags. time to log off forever. :thumbsdown:

    1 John 3:4
    4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.


    What is the Law? the Commandments, Laws and Statutes in the Holy Bible. Homosexuallity is a an abomination and the Most High COMMANDED us not to partake in that lifestyle.

    This one verse tells you clearly without a doubt that the Most High hates sin.

    All the crap you hear about "God hates sin but loves the sinner" is that New Age CRAP.
     
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    What facts do you have to support this ridiculous claim? Please cite your source where GOD is ok with Homosexuality, not your wicked twisted opinions that hold no water.

    God hates homosexuality, so therefore it's 100% ok for ME to hate that lifestyle as well. I posted the scripture for you.

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    There's no such thing as a "Gay Christian"...that's some twisted wicked perverted lust to cloak themselves in Holiness. It's literally impossible.
     
  7. Junkieturtle

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    The only sin that prevents admission to heaven is blasphemy. Everything else can be washed away by a priest.

    But that's not the point. The point is the hypocritical expectation that others should be held up to rules religious folks consider "laws of God" but which they themselves don't follow. Someone not following rules really has no place to be calling out others not following rules. That's like when you read one of those stories about an idiot who calls the cops because someone broke into his house and stole all his cocaine or something.
     
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    lmao... such immature arrogance piled on top of a complete and utter fail.

    And you say I will be embarrassed over this?

    The challenge was, since you have the comprehension skills of a dead gnat, you were going to embarrass me by showing me where God says he hates sinners.

    Your response...

    Lol.... we all know God hates sin.
    You claimed God hates SINNERS.

    You tried to twist that verse into a "God hates people" argument with all your silly qualifications, lol.
    Like most of your troll-bait threads.... you failed.
    Does this mean it's you that will leave forever ?

    God hates sin.... not people.
    Well maybe you, based on the way you behave here, but not the rest.

    Sorry I'm such a threat to you, but no matter how much you beg... I'm not leaving over you.
     
  10. DentalFloss

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    I'm not the least bit interested in your "scripture". It was written by men so primitive that they though food poisoning was "punishment from gawd" for eating things they weren't allowed to eat. But if you want some insight into real spirituality and how homosexuality plays into it, read the works of Michael Newton and then get back to me.
     
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    Actually....it is simply YOU that hate homosexuality.

    YOU are certainly not GOD, nor do you have a direct connection to it. YOU are obviously a confused and angry man who uses a warped interpretation of religious thought to promote the very things written in the book he cherry picks and then changes to create imaginings that likely amount to mental masturbation.
     
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    I had some difficulty accepting homosexuality .. until about 20 years ago when I gave it some serious thought.

    My conclusions.. Its a civil rights issue..

    Its been around since the beginning of time.

    If God made us.. he likely made homosexuals too.

    Further.. the law of the Levites was their law, not the law of God or Moses.

    So maybe we should leave people alone and not treat them with cruelty.
     
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    Yeah...pretty sure God had something similar to say.
     
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    It's Biblical. and if God hates homosexuality. It's only right I follow the truth.

    If you ever get a chance to open a Bible, you'll find it there.

    toodles

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    Then you have accepted wickedness and will be destroyed along with them.

    Funny how people believe Dinosaurs lived but don't believe Sodom and Gomorrah happend.
     
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    HAHAHAHAHAHAH....REALLY?

    There's NO expectation for you to do anything. Only the Israelites. You can frolic in sin all you want and go to the priests and let him rubbed you down with tonic water and ashes and thik you're "cleansed" all you want. have at it. The Bible is not directed at you.

    As for me and mine, we shal follow the Lord, Yeshua.
     
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    Yep. That's what the New Testament said when I read it as a kid. Blasphemy is the only sin that confession will not wash away.


    If Leviticus only applies to the Israelites, than why are you bringing up Leviticus in regards to gay people that aren't Israelites?
     
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    You are making Baby Jesus cry......such a wonderful example of those teaching found in the book.

    Which, by the way....I have read a few versions of.
     
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    Can anybody post a scripture where it says GOD says it's ok to be Homosexual? If not, fine. just don't lie about it. just say you're doing your own thing. Don't use the Bible as your blanket of "it's Ok with God". that's the annoying part. because it's not ok with God, you just want it to be Ok with God. truth hurts.

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    Ooooooweee Baby Jesus? is that his new nickname now.

    Only version that's factual is the 1611, the rest are twisted trash
     
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    Jesus hates bigots and racists.
     
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    He wrote homosexuality, not homosexuals.
     
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    Cite the scripture not your wicked opinions. I might agree.
     
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    It's the gay ole "twist words to make people see me as a victim" habit.
     
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    Okay...so your ARE God, and Leviticus was your secretary.
     
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    In one post you said that the 1611 writers used the Dead Sea scrolls as a source, which weren't discovered until the 40's.
    Why are you not able to convince a single human being of your truly mad assertions?
     

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