Gay Chrsitians: Oxymoron?

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  1. 4Horsemen

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    King James gave the translators instructions intended to guarantee that the new version would conform to the ecclesiology and reflect the episcopal structure of the Church of England and its belief in an ordained clergy.[8] The translation was done by 47 scholars, all of whom were members of the Church of England.[9] In common with most other translations of the period, the New Testament was translated from Greek, the Old Testament was translated from Hebrew text

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_James_Version
     
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    I'm pretty sure he's just a troll posing as a christian. Sure their are stupid people out there but I'm having a hard time believing that he's that stupid.
     
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    Is that ebonics for "you're right, I made a fool of myself and you own me" ?

    Dude, since you can't find where God says he hates sinners... just admit you were full of sht and have no clue what you're talking about.
     
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    Ya know, seeing some of his threads, I thought he was legit, just uneducated on most things.

    Now that I see he is trying too hard, and making silly claims, then posting "proof" that has nothing to do with his claim, I'm starting to believe you.

    He's a Poe.
     
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    Yeah. Unfortunately we have several of those on this board and they really detract from actual debate and conversation.

    And so as not to go completely off topic I remember back when I was a christian I use to think that homosexuallity and christianity could never be linked together. Then one day I got to thinking one day for whatever reason that America is supposed to be the land of the free and equality so even if I disagreed with on principal I couldn't oppose them marrying. It just didn't make sense to deny them that right. And then a few years after I renounced my faith it occured to me that you could be both a christian.and homosexual. It was a bit of a profound moment for me.
     
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    tell us again how Esau went to the Caucasus Mountains.

    tell us again how all of Noah's children were black, and all white people are Albinos.

    tell us again how King James was black and the Israelites ruled Europe during the Dark Ages.





    lolol!!!!!!
     
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    I posted countless Biblical scriptures, books and links for you to go study on. I guess you looked the other way. tsk ...tsk.. poor you
     
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    What's also bizarre Ronstar, is you being white(I assume), can't even tell me where White people originated from.

    and NO, the Evironment didn't make their skin turn pale either.
     
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    Oh hell.....
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right...
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    ... the real morons are...

    ... the ministers who allow it."
     
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    Again, let's go by 4Horse's standard and use Leviticus....

    if he has EVER worn a cotton blend, he's going to Hell...same as the homosexuals.


    Hey...not ME saying that....it's in the Bible. I can quote it. :)
     
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    Soon as I can get some clear admittance as to WHY the Edomites whitewashed the majority of the Black images throughout Europe, I will address your question, until then, you can keep asking it and I'll keep ignoring you.
     
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    You people have to understand that the scriptures don't "bend" to your twisted reasonings. it's absolute. If the Most High says homosexuality is an abomination. Then it's OBVIOUSLY bad. Why don't you people get that?
     
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    why are you derailing your own thread?
     
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    Because he's not a serious poster.
     
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    Weren't you the one that kept asking these off topic questions ?

    He finally addresses you and you accuse him of derailing.

    Brilliant.
     
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    YOU don't get to make that call, BTW. (And those who do make that call are usually out of the lane they should be in.)

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    Indeed!!

    And the hypocrites tend to reveal themselves by pretending to speak for God (in their various misguided ways). :(
     
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    nice story. Don't think you are going to convince anybody.
    https://www.gaychristian.net/
     
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    Spoken like a true pharisee.

    Mark 12:31 "The second is this, You will love your neighbor as yourself. No other commandment is greater than these."

    Perhaps you see Mark 12:31 as more of a suggestion than an actual rule.
     
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    Hater Christians: Oxymoron?

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    I thought god didn't hate anyone.
     
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    it seems his followers take after their God.. 'jealous' of others... jealous of the poor, jealous of people in love... jealous .. jealous .. jealous

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    Perhaps you do not realize that it is quite possible to love a person while hating their behaviors.
    If you found out that your son was a heroin addict and that hes been stealing from your neighbors in order to feed his addiction, would you hate him? Of course not, hes your son. Now you probably would hate the fact that he's an addict and a thief, but you wouldn't hate him.
    I have a niece that is a lesbian, ans I can assure you that I love her more than I could even try to put into words, she is an amazing young lady, sweet, friendly, funny, and she can bake cookies and cupcakes like its nobody's business, I love her to death. But I fear for her soul. There have been times, while driving home, that I think about her situation and I've had tears run down my cheek, these are not tears of hatred, pain, or anger, these are tears of love. I can't help but to notice how Christians post things like "God hates homosexuality" and anti Christians respond by saying, " see Christians and God hate homosexuals..." Just for your information, there is a big difference between homosexuality and homosexual. The former is a sin and an abomination in the eyes of the Lord, the later is a person, created by and made in the image of the Lord.
     
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    In the eyes of God we are all sinners. So you hate the behaviour of all man kind.
    There is a difference, those things eat at ones person, puts people at risk and may wind up killing your son.
    This is one of my issues with Christians that drink the koolaid. You are so worried about the sins of others you forget to fear for your own soul. I know why people do this. It's called false piety. You are as wretched a sinner as anybody else. Why do you specifically fear for her soul and nobody else's?
    This is an issue of attempting to pluck a sliver out of your brother's eye while not seeing the beam in your own eye. I am not trying to be hard on you here, but I am frankly fed up with this B.S. so long have I heard this nonsense about gay sin. It's pushed me and my family out of the church.

    I see the goofy ways people go about how to make the so called "sin of homosexuality" the worst trespass imaginable. And it's a desperate thing. I heard that is "unrepentant" that gay people go and commit the "sin" over and over. All people do that until they die, if that statement is false than three would be a bunch of Jesuses running around. Man cannot escape sin, period.

    Then I hear this crap about being saved. "You can't be saved if you are gay." That is sacrilegious demonic nonsense. We were made sinless by the sacrifice of Christ. He already saved us from our sin, that is what that whole gospel thing was about.

    So I take a bit of an issue with this false piety.

    What in the hell are you crying about? Doyou believe in Jesus? Does your niece? If so, she is saved. There is nothing to lement. Trust in Christ have faith that his promise is true. He came here to save the sinners. Not to condemn them.

    Sorry to seem so forceful but you are forgetting the major point of Christianity.

    Both statements are false. You cannot separate homosexuality from a person. Thus God can't hate homosexuality. Any time someone says a phrase that starts with the words "God hates..." They are lying. God doesn't hate his creation, if he did, why did he come down here as a man and die for us? Why is John 3:16 in the bible? He loved the world. So that eliminates hate of anything.

    For your information that is a cop out. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

    Why would God create an abomination? Are you saying he cursed people with homosexuality and delights in their torment? If not, explain it if you don't mind.

    See if all Christianity has to offer a homosexual person is heterosexuality, Christianity only offers hopelessness to homosexuals thus it is not a creation of God but a mockery of him.

    I am sorry, but I have heard this dance people do to try and justify their church's wretched stance on homosexuality and I despise it because it's simply a lie they tell themselves to feel better about pushing their brethren out in the cold.
     

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