General Patton after WW II: "We defeated the wrong enemy"

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  1. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    just as Poland was given large areas that were mostly Russian and Belarussian in the east, Poland was also given areas that were mostly German in the west.

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    green is Polish, red is German
     
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    My knowledge about Polish history doesn't reach that far, but the Polish could better have been part of the Third Reich and would have enjoyed all the advantages and economic freedom from banking in stead of being the scrapyard it always has been.
     
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    As if Poland had not existed before the Partitions of Poland.

    Might I point that German Prussia had formed a mutual alliance in 1790, which German Prussia had then gone onto backstab Poland, and partition Poland, for such a primitive reason as Poland had adopted Europe's first constitution in May 3rd of 1791.
     
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    it was VERY stupid, dangerous, and bigoted for the Allies to give Poland sooo much land and soo many districts that were majority not Poles, but were Russian, Belarussian, and German.

    this clearly led to Russian hostility and German hostility.


    but we all know, one of the purposes of the Treaty of Versaille, was to PUNISH Germany...without considering the consequences.
     
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    Nope, this map you bought up before shows Polish as the majority in the vast regions of Western Poland at the time.

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    Are you trying to make the case to why Polish should despise Jews, or are you trying to make the case for Jews being dumb?

    I can't seem to grasp why a Jew would support Germans, over Polish.

    This is one of the many reasons why I'm highly doubtful of the supposed superior Jewish intellect, because so many Jews don't sound smart what so ever.

    You wonder why I don't like Jews?

    No, I don't like Jews what so ever, they're the most anti-Polish population I've encountered, and this holds true on this forum too.
     
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    that map was obviously not detailed enough.

    it was a historical CRIME for the Allies to give Poland soo much land and soo many districts where the majority of people were not Poles. I guess they just wanted to set Europe up for another big war.

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    WW1 may have been avoided, if the Allies were not soo hateful and demanding for vengeance
     
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    Poland actually fought for much of this land in the Greater Poland Uprising,. Versailles merely collaborated with that.

    Poland acquired much of it's land in the East during the Polish - Soviet war, even Kiev was under Polish control, however Poland gave Kiev back.

    As for Polish aggravating German, and Russian aggression.

    Wow, how stupid.

    Nazi Germany tried to forge an empire from Germany to Stalingrad Russia, while Soviets forged a defacto empire from Russia to Berlin following WW2.

    Unlike Polish, both Nazi Germany, and Soviets also mass murdered people in huge massacres on the offensive.
     
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    First, those numbers are grossly exaggerated.
    Second, the Germans didn't start shooting.
    Third, what did you expect the Germans to do when there was an 'uprising' during wartime..? Just walk away and do nothing about it?
     
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    Like how in Slovakia, or in Western Ukraine the Nazis backstabbed their allies?

    Scrapyard?

    Well, it's a little easier to amass wealth, when you're not at constant war for 1,000 years, and then had slavery, and colonialism to amass wealth, like Western Europe did, and Poland did not.

    But, Polish are clearly completely capable.

    Polish Americans are richer than German Americans.
     
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    there is evidence of discrimination and prejudice against non-Polish minorities throughout Poland.


    however, the crimes committed against Polish soldiers and civilians, by both the Nazis and Soviets, were horrible war crimes and they should have ALL been punished. We punished the Nazis but not the Soviets. That's what strength and nuclear weapons sometimes does.

    also, it is no damn secret that the Allies were very anti-German and determined to make Germany suffer for decades, after WW1. Germany did NOT start WW1 but they were made to pay for it as if they did. Had they not started trouble, Germany would have been paying off their WW1 debts through the 1980s.

    they lost land that should have stayed German. All of this was great for idiots like Hitler and other demagogues, to stir up German resentment and a drive for a new war.

    The British and French Allies were idiots. Woodrow Wilson tried to convince them not to treat Germany too harshly, but they wouldn't listen.

    Why did they also give territory that should have been Russian and Belorussian, to Poland? Perhaps to also pisss off the Russians. Who the hell knows.

    Poland was caught in the middle cause they were the main benefactor of the Allies idiocy and vengefulness.
     
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    Nazi Germany was already losing the war to the Soviets at the time, and the Soviets were marching to Warsaw, so why the heck would Nazi Germany fight Polish, when they could have tried to get Polish to fight the Soviets?
     
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    Yes, the Soviet Union was one of the most brutal regimes ever. During it's history approximately 90 million people have died. All being executed or sent off to the Gulags for even the slightest suspicion of being against the regime. Ever heard of the Holodomor in which they starved millions of Ukrainians to death by seizing all their food supplies?

    So it's not strange at all that Christian "Nazi" Germany didn't accept the Fins to negotiate with the godless Soviets.
     
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    cause they were bigoted against Poles and resented Poland for being the main benefactor of the WW1 Allies vengeful policies against Germany.
     
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    Sorry, but I don't accept Wikipedia as a source, as that is clearly Zionist controlled. What you're pulling up there is clearly anti-German allied propaganda material.
     
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    so what source is acceptable?

    let me guess, Metapedia and Stormfront?
     
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    Germans didn't have a right to Western Polish lands that were rightfully given back to their rightful Polish owners following WW1.

    No where in Poland had a Russian majority following WW1.

    So, I don't know why you're bringing this into the equation.
     
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    Soviets probably would never have existed, if not for Germany sending the train of Bolsheviks to Russia in 1917 during WW1.

    Germans both weakened Tsarist Russia so they had trouble taking down the Bolsheviks, while propping up the Bolsheviks by both sending them to Russia, and sending financial support.

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    Oh, God Forbid someone supports peace, that calls for war.

    WTF?

    You know how insane that sounds?
     
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    The Polish government was clearly Zionist and UK controlled back in the day, and set up against Germany in order to start war.

    Check it out:

    The True reason why Hitler attacked Zionist Poland

    [video=youtube;q3V3D1aio_U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3V3D1aio_U[/video]
     
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    Oh yeah, so Zionist that Wikipedia has articles on the Jewish terrorist Irgun out of Israel / Palestine.

    Wikipedia's actually a pretty good source of information.
     
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    LMFAO, go ask Ron, Poland had a system which boycotted Jewish businesses, and kept Jews from holding government positions in Poland prior to WW2.

    That's uber Zionist, alright. LOL
     
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    Still didn't see an answer to the following question btw:

    - Why did France and England only declare war on Germany for invading Poland and not also on the Soviets?

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    Zionists control Wikipedia

    [video=youtube;COPNxLQJ2xE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COPNxLQJ2xE[/video]
     
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    Actually I agree that France, and England should have also declared war on Soviets too for invading Poland.

    Instead quite the opposite happened, England gave Soviets much support in lend-lease, before supporting the Soviet take over of much of Central-Europe in Yalta Conference, and Potsdam Conference.
     
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    German Austrians started WW1, sure a different German country, but still Germans.

    Germany backed German Austrians anyways.
     
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    Yeah, oops... you are forgetting an important detail here: it were the Zionist Jews in Germany who sent that train of Bolsheviks to Russia in order to remove the Czar:

    Benjamin Freedman, ex-Zionist tells ALL about how it went down:

    Benjamin H. Freedman 1961 speech

    [video=youtube;x8OmxI2AYV8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8OmxI2AYV8[/video]

    Seems like you are quite caught up in anti-German rethoric, while not pointing out the real perpetrators.
     
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    Yeah... well, you know why that is?

    Because Communism is a Jewish invention and the Soviet Union was ruled by Jews.

    And Britain and France were under Masonic leadership. Freemasonry = Jewish/Zionist controlled.

    So basically behind the scenes they teamed up against Germany, as Germany freed itself from their international banking scheme and the Zionists were afraid more countries would follow their example, which would have meant the end of their power.

    The fact that UK and France did only declare war on Germany and not on Soviet Union is CLEAR evidence of foul-play.
     

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