George Floyd autopsy report surprise!

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    putting your fingers in your ears and screeching racism at the top of your lungs it is not talking about anyting. That's a temper tantrum similar to what a toddler would do.
     
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    And you are right.

    The Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s Office issued its final public report, stating that Floyd died as a result of “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”
     
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    A very interesting dynamic is emerging. We are finally seeing an awakening among young people. Smart, peaceful protesters of all colors are marching for justice.

    What is interesting is that this is a death blow for trump. Bernard Shaw made this observation but I didn't see it yet. I do now! America is finally waking up!!!

    Today's title: How an abusive cop destroyed an abusive president.
     
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  4. Bluesguy

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    His shortness of breath before he was on the ground does. The pressure thing is speculation from a video but there was no pressure on him when he was standing and complaining of shortness of breath.

    Remember BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT Baden was saying could have, might have.
     
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    If you take all the evidence there surely a case of reasonable doubt for murder. I think it will come down to a manslaughter due to the no evidence of strangulation or asphyxiation and the shortness of breath he was experiencing before he went down in light of the coronary artery disease and hypertension along with his illegal drug use of a drug that slows down breathing and cardio/pulmonary function shifts the weight of the evidence to the cardiac distress killing him. Had it not been for that I think there's a good chance he'd be alive.
     
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    It's because of folks like you and the attitudes of folks like you that we see the same injustices that black folks dealt with 80 or 90yrs ago.
     
  7. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    What you mean like lynchings and Jim Crow laws where do we see that?
     
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    The ME said the cause of death was a result of the police putting pressure on the neck and back of Mr. Floyd. 100%. Coronary artery disease and hypertension and the drugs were not a factor or even partial cause in his death.
     
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    No he didn't and Floyd was already experiencing signs of cardiac distress before he was down on the ground. How did the ME or Baden measure the actual force being applied to Floyd's back. Why was Floyd breathing the entire time, take air into his lungs? Why no signs of strangulation or asphyxiation?
     
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    Again, here are the official ME findings. Last time I will point out that there is no mention of anything but the cop's actions.
     
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    1. If you have x-ray vision you should be in the circus, otherwise no.

    2. How would they know it was excessive force if indeed it was that? One if restraining his feet, one's restraining his body and one is keeping the crowd back? So how are they supposed to know if no4 is deploying excessive force with the knee restraining the suspects head?

    3. Proven by whom? We see no such thing? What video did you watch?

    4. Please point out to me where it demonstrated I am wrong? Certainly not by you. I make no 'apologetics' for an murder because neither is the case, both are manslaughter at most. What you mean is I'm proving you wrong and you're too blinkered to admit it, there is no racism in either case, you're just seeing what you want to see to confirm your prejudice.
     
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    But to the degree that it would have killed? Are these cops just unlucky to have been forced to restrain the wrong man?
     
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    He hasn't even been tried yet! The officer's actions weren't illegal it was a technique authorised by his department. The acts of the officer may have contributed but so did his underlying health problems and intoxication. Come on, give it up, you want to see racism where there is none.
     
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    Of course it's true, you just don't want to admit it. Nothing will change for black America until they tackle their violent criminality
     
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    Of course they can when it's justified. Because black folks are no different to anyone else!
     
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    My wife sure is hoping the trial will be televised so she can learn the facts.
     
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    Maybe. Dude was goosed up on fetanyl and was having a heart attack because, well, that's what fetanyl does.

    There's a reason they called for paramedics immediately... he was ****ed up.

    That explains why thousands of people have been put in the same position and not died.
     
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    Could be as it has been reported. But the facts need to come out in the trial, where opinions are generally only allowed from expert witnesses such as doctors, ballistics, fingerprints, DNA, etc. Ordinary witnesses must state the truth or be subject to perjury charges.
     
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    What? He was a junkie methead all along? MY GOD! Do you think the rioters and looters will now apologise and bring the stolen items back?
     
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    The degree that it would have killed is, without the neck compression Floyd would not have died then and there. Not unlucky; they performed an illegal choking method and did not listen when he said he could not breathe, even though he did not resist arrest. Now, maybe Floyd would have a heart attack hours, days or weeks later---that we do not know, but we do know that the proximate cause (both a medical and insurance term) was the neck compression.
     
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    Floyd did not show any hyperactivity of someone on meth, or the nods, drooling, or impaired gate when walking indicative of Fentanyl or being high on opioids; whether he had any substances within his system remains to be seen, but fentanyl is stronger than oxycontin or morphine and yet he was driving and walking just fine.
     
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    When has white America ever tackled their violent criminality? You can make excuses for anything.
     
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    You think anytime a white man kills a black man it's justified.
     
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    It's not illegal, it was an authorised method by the MPD, it would only be illegal if it was employed excessively and that remains to be seen. They say he did resist arrest and they called the EMTs when he said he couldn't breathe
     
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    No murders are justified if the victim wasn't doing anything that warranted being killed by an officer, or innocent home owner...etc.

    What race kills the most black people?
     
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