GOP lawmaker takes out textbook, tells Mueller he doesn't have 'power to exonerate'

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    And your BS is not my problem.
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You can continue to live in your fantasy world but I would suggest you do some reading beyond the TDS narrative.
     
  3. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I did a lot of reading about this subject and about Trump's past, something that you have not done. You made a statement without any support. Who are you kidding?
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Someone has no clue about the Hillary email mess.
     
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    The "TDS" reply is a cover up in the corner of the ring when getting battered.
     
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    I am point out it was a general question and not framed as WILL Trump be indicted after he leaves office but can a President be indicted after he leaves office. The answer is of course and changes NOTHING about the report and the determinations made.

    (c)If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters.

    The LAW says he cannot discuss it with ANYONE other than the AG. The same protections ANYONE gets when subject to a criminal investigation. Mueller did not have to subpoena testimony it was given voluntarily under orders from the President where in fact he could have refused under executive privilege. And yes Lynch had to recuse herself afterwards for this blatant conflict of interest in which SHE engaged. Stop trying to deflect. But do quote where Barr said they did not investigate OOJ and the explain why his report as an entire Part 2 concerning their attempts to find an OOJ charge which they did not report to the AG as REQUIRED by the law.
     
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    Yes through their law firm hired a foreign company and foreign agent to bring them Russian dirt on Trump to use to try and influence the election. Why wasn't that investigated?
     
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    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that you have a clue about much of anything, so this conversation is over. Stop listening to whoever gave you incorrect information.
     
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    They paid a foreign agent to obtain the fallacious dirt on Trump from the Russians.
     
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    It was turned over to the FBI which was required.
     
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    Wouldn't that be collusion?
     
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    Talk about recreating history.

    HC did not "immediately turn it over to the FBI". She and the DNC just stopped paying for it once Trump was elected. Even though the Democrats stopped paying for the research, Steele continued with his "investigation". It was Steel himself that turned it over to Kramer (thinking he might get paid for his extra work), an aide of Senator McCain. Kramer turned it over to McCain, who turned it over to the FBI. McCain turned it over to Comey on December 9, 2016. The FBI was going to pay Steele for the document, but once it was leaked to CNN on January 10, 2017, the FBI decided not to pay Steele.

    At no time did HC mention anything about the document's existence to the FBI until after it became public.
     
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    Maybe if it was true, instead of false.
     
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    So what?
     
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    So what? Well, I think it is a bit dishonest to paint HC as some patriotic politician that "turned it immediately over to the FBI which is the correct thing to do", when she did no such thing. She hide it's existence just as much as anybody else. It is a false narrative you are attempting to spread.
     
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    Try reading your own links

    "“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, referring to emails Mrs. Clinton had deleted from the private account she had used when she was secretary of state. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”"

    The server was in the hands of the FBI and the NYT had just reported 30,000 emails which belong to the AMERICAN PEOPLE were missing and the FBI was trying to recover them so we could see them. How would Russia hack a server that was not online and in the hands of the FBI. The joke was the Russians seem so good at it maybe they could help the FBI recover them.

    “If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!,”
    It was NOT about hacking the DNC or anyone else.
     
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    LOL, you know nothing about Hillary's emails yet claim facts are BS.
     
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    And conspiracy
     
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    I never said she was patriotic. And I sure as hell never said that Trump was patriotic. I stand corrected, and Trump turned nothing over to the FBI--zero, zilch, nada. I believe that Hillary's stuff was turned over to the Congress, yes? Compared to Trump, Hillary is the fairy godmother.
     
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    Why wasn't the collusion investigated and paying for information from a foreign agent? And it was turned over to the FBI by John McCain not the DNC or Hillary campaign.
     
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    Oh, I get it now. Trump was just making a funny.
     
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    Take a nap, sonny
     
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    You have to ask the FBI. Trump didn't turn anything over to the FBI. Why not?
     
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    Nothing to turn over.
     
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    Do you really think this was the first incident where oppo research has been done on a candidate...and where information was obtained from foreign entities? Do you really think ANY politician would turn over the dirt they obtained from those foreign entities to the FBI? It would be a very naive person that could say "yes" to either. The only reason they would turn it over to the FBI would be if they thought they could make their opponent look bad and that it would help them win the election. They certainly would not do it "because it was the right thing to do".

    I am certainly not saying Trump's or his campaign's actions were honorable, but they did not have anything to turn over to the FBI. His campaign met possible foreign agents in their quest for dirt, but they did not get anything. No politician would have went to the FBI in that situation....well, except maybe John McCain. I can pretty much guarantee that Hillary would not have. I would even seriously doubt she would have gone to the FBI even if she got some dirt. The media probably, but not the FBI. That is not how politics work in today's age. Dirt is dirt and the source is irrelevant. Heck, even the validity of the dirt is irrelevant, as long as it can cast doubt on an opponent.
     
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