GOP to uninsure 24 million

How many people do not have health insurance?
44 million
About 44 million people in this country have no health insurance, and another 38 million have inadequate health insurance.

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I wasn't saying that the government should, & If they do, I'm not saying I'm on board with it.

I was merely pointing out that to compare things that are of the variety of "Want", with something that is essentially in the column of "Need", wasn't exactly a great way to make a point in the matter.

 

You State the obvious. You have a point or just wanted to spew out vitriol

 

I think the point you aren't getting is that trumpcare will leave more people uninsured then we're uninsured before Obamacare a second thing I would point out is this trumpcare thing doesn't reflect with Trump promised

 

I know this post isn't serious this isn't an adult post is it

 

And now they will impose on the rest of us and we will pay for their healthcare in the most expensive way possible.....the ER

 

That assumes that one day they will need medical care. A substantial number of people don't.

 

Almost every person will need medical care at some point. Are you kidding?

 

Only if they get old.

 

Everyone either is or will get old if they are lucky. duh

 

First of all the ACA was a huge farce designed to fail in order to ram single payer down our throats. Ultimately had Clinton won that is exactly what would have happened. The state of healthcare would have become much worse as a result. The government isn't very good a doing much the VA is a prime example and that is what things would have been like under single payer. The numbers enrolled in Obamacare were always inflated and dicked around with to support the appearance of it working. Those same numbers now are just as fictitious. We must get the government out of our healthcare and send it back to the free market but with appropriate oversight. A government that can force it citizenry to buy a product can also restrain the insurance industry and big Pharma. Instead of this pipe dream of another useless and problematic entitlement we need to send it back to the market and let competition control costs. Before the ACA came along what we had was not perfect but it was still the best in the world and we deserve nothing but the best.

 

You have no evidence of any of this nonsense.

- the ACA was designed to be permanent.
- Clinton did not propose to replace the ACA
- the VA is not a valid example of a single payer system, because it is used by a tiny percent of voters. Legislators (and their constituents) treat it as a benefit we decide to allow our vets - NOT something upon which America depends for health care. To see valid examples of single payer systems you need to look at other countries, ALL of which have systems that are essentially single payer type systems.
- The idea that Obama twisted health care numbers is just plain stupid. Insurance companies and other interested analysts have detailed understanding of exactly who in America has coverage and what kind of coverage they have.
- drug pricing issues are separate. If you want competition in drug pricing you need to call your congressmen about that.
- under the ACA the increase in health care expenditures per capita has SLOWED as compared to the "competition" that existed before. This hasn't been by a lot, but it is detectable, and comes because the ACA puts pressure toward paying for outcomes rather than procedures.

 

your comments belong in the conspiracy pew.

 

No one is preventing the 24 million from purchasing coverage.

Of course, "coverage" under Obama was a joke with people earning $35,000 per year and their deductible at $15,000.

 

Many don't.

 

That's quite the health care plan. LOL

 

It's not easy when one tries to do, by force of law, what cannot, or should not, be done by force at all.

 

Should is your personal opinion. And you are welcome to it

 

Trump never promised to mandate that everyone buy insurance. Never, not once.

 

There is no such thing as free. In order to give something to someone, you have to take it from someone else.

 

As free as public education.

 

. . . . But he did promise that insurance would be affordable to EVERYONE.

 

Why can other western nations do it and the US cannot?

 

The ACA does what all government programs do -- swaps out who's getting favored at the moment with who needs attention. Sets up a program with federal funding then gives it 4 or 5 years to become self sustaining before the funding is pulled away. It's a shell game, don't you see?

Many people who put off expensive medical treatments because they did not have insurance signed up for ObamaCare, obtained SUBSIDIES, and went forward with their expensive medical procedures. Hurray! They couldn't have done it without Obama Care, and they LOVE it. However... there are many many more who decided not to sign up because they are healthy and without subsidies, Obama Care was expensive. There are many more who signed up, but who have essentially been priced out of insurance as well as medical care because they are picking up the tab for the subsidized people.

Obama Care is bankrupting states. Do you get it?
Insurers are pulling out because they are losing money by the millions, and it will collapse all together in states that do not have the population to sustain the program.

Obama Care will collapse because it didn't work. It will collapse and all those people who enjoy the subsidies will find themselves with nothing.

But hey, if you are a partisan who loves Obama, keep it.
Keep it right down into the dust. And just for stubbornness, be sure you pull down the whole economy behind you.

 

So what this means, is that these 24 million will revert back to Subsidized Emergency Room Care, with the associated substantial rising premiums that we're seen in the past.