GOP to uninsure 24 million

That can't be true, Trump promised everyone would have insurance

 

People are overlooking the obvious:

1) Lack of government provided health care insurance doesn't mean all the millions of people won't have health care insurance. Before the ACA was passed the fasted growing segment of the uninsured were those making more than 75,000 a year. Easily able to afford insurance.

2) Lack of health care insurance does not mean people are going to be "left to die".

3) Presence of health care insurance doesn't make a group of people necessarily healthier.

4) People always like to point out that the U.S. ranks so low in terms of life expectancy among developed countries, 33rd IIRC.

What they don't mention is that the distance between the U.S. at #33 and #1......is only four years.

 

42,000 people a year died from lack of insurance prior to the ACA

 

Prove it. With evidence from a source that does not support universal health care. Statements against interest.

 

Would Harvard medical school suffice?

 

24 million will be left uninsured
And you seem to praise it.

Something is wrong with this picture, and the morals within.

 

Generally that means they could afford it as a major expense that they have an unpredictable need for. Their decision is should my family save 10,000 dollars and live better, or pay 10,000 dollars and be okay if their family is unlucky enough to have a major health problem. Many people gamble, and those who lose cost the rest of us money by not being able to pay their bills, and run the risk of having delayed or denied optimal care.

Per EMTALA people who present to the ER must be stabilized. But people without insurance are going to be less likely to get preventive and less invasive care, and thus will do worse, and people without insurance are going to be unable to afford outpatient care to manage disease, and so they will also die more often than if they had good coverage.

4 years is kind of a lot of time to me... I guess it's not as dramatic as comparing developed to undeveloped countries, where we're talking about decades, but considering that America spends a lot more per capita, we're getting a bad deal compared to countries with socialized medicine.

 

Not if they have advocated universal medical insurance in the U.S.

 

I would say that most issues regarding health outcomes for Americans are lifestyle related,

 

Prove that they have. Here is the reference. Its actually 45,000.
http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...s-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

 

Out of curiosity, why do you think the American government was created?

 

This is just like when they said "Hillary landslide". They don't care if what they say is right or wrong. They only care if it benefits them politically.

 

Why? Neither is guaranteed to a person by God or the U.S. Constitution. If a person wants either then they can work and pay for it like everyone else.

 

Maybe those people should stop spending $200 on sneakers and $50 a week on lottery tickets, booze and weed and instead buy health insurance.

 

See my quote for why it is nuts.
What about the people that do work longer then 60/hours a week and still cant afford it?
Well can but it would be a choice between rent, daycare, or health insurance.
not including travel time if they live in a red state..which can be up to an hour an a half, each way

 

We tried to make them but you guys won't have it. LOL

 

Not that I agree with National Healthcare, but your 3 things on your list aren't necessary for a healthy life.

Just saying.

 

The health of the population at large is indeed the job of the government. 1: It is not in it for profit. 2: It does not have to answer to shareholders. 3: It evens out the dips and rises and 4: a healthy citizenry is a producing citizenry. Why is it that almost all first world nations have worked this out but the US which pays, on average, more for less?

 

I agree. Instead of providing medicaid, we should buy airline tickets for the poor to seek treatment from the charitable better countries. They can return when they are fixed.

 

Where does it say the government is supposed to provide someone a healthy life? That's something people should do for themselves.
I don't think I should have to pay for health insurance for someone who smokes three packs a day or for someone who only has bacon and sausage in their diet.

 

It is cheaper to learn to do it yourself. All the rest of us have, in our various ways.

 

Why not? You're paying for those folk already in other ways?

 

Whatever works for you. I was only half kidding though. Medical travel vacations are becoming popular enough that there are companies that will arrange those for you. I met a man who was having his dental implants done in China because it was cheaper to fly back and forth a couple times than to have them done here.

 

If twenty four million people choose not to buy health insurance after it is no longer legally mandated that they do so, that tells me that those were twenty four million people who were being unjustly imposed upon by their government.

 

DARN!!! . . . . . . Must be that fake news again. . . . Probably a Muslim conspiracy.