GOP vaccine resistance confronting Biden has deep roots

I realize that you don't care (as if that's what mattered), but if it's true, and you must surely know that most of them did honestly believe that Trump got a sufficient number of votes to win in the Electoral College, then "seek to overturn" is an inaccurate if leftist-favored description of what happened.

"Unfounded effort based, on a mistaken belief, to correct the result", or something like that, would be more accurate.

 

No, he disputed the results of the election. Pretty common in Presidential elections. And nothing authoritarian in doing so.

 

Lets get one thing straight .. you have no clue about the effectiveness or lack there-of of the vax .. as if you did - you would be railing against the Biden Fauci "Anti Science" clown car.

But you don't .. and so you parrot spoon fed propaganda .. as pretend you know what the science is..

but hey .. perhaps I misjudged .. here is your chance .. subject matter expert here at your service .. but always willing to learn more - tell me "The Science" tell me why these "unvaxed" are "Unclean" - a detriment to society .. a "Danger" to society..

 

Of course I know what authoritarianism is. I was raised in a dictatorial authoritarianism country. I am not a Trumpist. Obviously you don't know me at all. It might be better to keep the personal slights for those you understand better.

 

Fine with me. Nothing the government has done, including vaccines, has had much effect on the virus. We have had more virus deaths this year after vaccines than last year as an example.

 

Did Al Gore also try to overturn a democratic election? Time to return to real life. There was a riot. It was bad. There were certainly worse ones over the past couple of years. It is over.l Nobody supports the riots.

 

Please do not compare Gore with Trump.

I've read enough historical revisionism on this forum.

Trump did everything he could to overthrow democracy and even today he spreads his Big Lie whenever he has an audience.

 

The first couple of weeks.

 

It was "just like a normal tourist day".

 

No. For at least 6 months, and 5 times better than "natural immunity".

 

I’ve seen Israeli studies as well as studies from UAE that contradict your claim.
Vaccine immunity peaks within weeks and then rapidly declines. Why do you think vaccine producers Pfizer and Moderna push for boosters? If you need a booster, that means that whatever you had is getting weaker.
Or, do you have an alternative explanation for why a vaccine that has efficacy of 93% after 6 months would need a booster?

 

Really ... where did you hear that ? as I have heard different.

 

I have no idea, really, becuase I'm not a virologist, but there are way too many people involved in the design, manufacture, approval, and distribution of vaccines for me to believe that it's all a big conspiracy to make money. It would only take one whistle blower among the many thousands involved to say, "This vaccine business is a scam to boost profits," if that's what is being claimed.

I'm against mandates, but not for that reason.

 

The DP has a long, but apparently forgotten history of using pandemics to suppress its Republican opposition.

"Negroes, free and freed, especially objected to the pass system established ostensibly to stop the spread of smallpox, but kept at the demand of the planters in order to hold Negroes on the plantations. The Tribune said, April 30:

The 'smallpox passes' will remain as an instructive feature in the history of abolition in Louisiana. It is one of those marks of servitude which are enforced upon us in view of controlling a population that has been declared free – that has to be let free. It is a deception practiced upon the emancipated slaves, who receive from one hand their liberty, and are deprived by the other hand of one of their most precious privileges – the right of moving at will. It is an outrage upon the old free colored men, who used that right during the darkest and most gloomy years of the slavery régime, and now are deprived of the exercise of their traditional liberties. It is well for the world at large to know how practical liberty is understood in Louisiana."
BLACK RECONSTRUCTION IN AMERICA 1860- 1880, W.E.B. Dubois, introduction by David Levering Lewis, the Free Press new York 1998. p. 458.

 

You don't give a damn about topic either I see!

 

Follow the numbers

Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19 (forbes.com)

 

You too..

 

American Government funding free vaccinations? Is that how it works in Australia? Here in the U.S. TAXPAYERS provide the funds to fund things.. I guess there really are no leftist that understand Governments don't make money, they TAKE MONEY..

 

I think we have a combination of bad factors:
We have Pfizer and Moderna, who are obviously motivated by profit and Pfizer is even allowed to conduct its own research on the harms of the vaccine to the heart tissues. I bet tobacco companies would love to conduct their own research on the harms of the cigarette smoking, don’t you think?
We also have a lot of woke fools on local level who do nothing but virtue signaling - they are willing to significantly interfere with everyday lives of their constituents to demonstrate their electorate how hard they are working against the vaccine, despite the fact that their intervention bears no fruit if one were to compare most states with the most ridiculous restrictions to those that have none. The problem with virtue signaling is that in order to achieve some change, these idiots are waiting for a significant number of others on their level to reject status quo, and considering that any discussion about masks and mandatory vaccines lead to labels “anti-science”, not a whole lot of local politicians are going to risk being canceled.
These two issues lead to our current problem - a virus whose danger is over exaggerated, a vaccine with exaggerated efficacy and duration, and attempts to mandate vaccination, despite the fact that there is plenty of evidence that the protection from a vaccine is questionable at best. We also know that Pfizer’s board member seem to have unhealthy influence on our government and mass media, and we know that Fauci can lie through his teeth and was called on it several times, as well as his rather bizarre history of coronavirus research and attempts to alter their function.
Is there any wonder we have so many people who religiously follow everything they were told by woke mass media, as well as traditional conservatives who started to turn into conspiracy nuts?

 

I wouldn’t mind, if all funds were coming from her personal bank account.

 

The questions of vaccine need and vaccine efficacy, and the profitability of vaccine manufacture, are two different issues.

Elon is a jillionaire, but Teslas work.

 

Hell, Australian MONEY can just as easily buy vaccines for Mexico too But you know, anything to cast America in a dim light..

 

Well you made the point? And as far as whistle blowers go, well MSM is, has been censoring every one that doesn't go along with the narrative.. So there's that!

Meet The 40 New Billionaires Who Got Rich Fighting Covid-19 (forbes.com)

 

Thats the crux of the entire debate right there. Their is NO proof, yet they still cling to the lie. They still repeat the lie.

There is no way to "honestly believe" in something that doesnt exists. The day after the election when Trump says they cheated, OK, MAYBE, but after 6 months of no proof, then 1 year of no proof, not ONE SHRED of evidence to support the lie, and they still believe it, then it is a cult

 

There is another thing that I’m having problems understanding with these vaccines, maybe @CenterField can shed some light:
MRNA vaccines are supposed to be very specific. They were designed based on the first strain. I’ve read a couple of days ago that some preliminary research hinted that 2 vaccine doses don’t work against omicron, but if you get a booster, it will help. So, considering that mRNA vaccines are supposed to be very specific, then how come 2 of the same yields no results, but 3 of the same do? The spike protein these vaccines induce your body to generate is the same with each shot, therefore your body will continue to produce exact same antibodies. So, why is forcing your body to produce more ineffective antibodies is good? What’s the difference between antibodies generated after 1st, 2nd, and 3rd shots? Shouldn’t they all be exactly the same? Also, isn’t there a concern that continuously forcing your body to produce the same antibodies against mutating virus can result in your immune system continuously producing the same antibodies against all future strains? Isn’t that a path straight to ADE? Wouldn’t it be better to reformulate the vaccine to reflect strains that are in circulation now, so that your immune system can at least recognize the difference?