Grand Jury Charges 1 in Breonna Taylor Case

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  1. Bluesguy

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    What's the otherside?

    Louisville cop who was shot in the leg after entering Breonna Taylor's apartment WAS hit by her boyfriend, not 'friendly fire', ballistics report shows
    By KAREN RUIZ FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

    PUBLISHED: 09:38 EDT, 9 October 2020 | UPDATED: 12:29 EDT, 9 October 2020

    The Louisville cop who was shot in the leg during a shootout at Breonna Taylor's apartment was struck by her boyfriend, not 'friendly fire', a newly released ballistics report confirms.

    Sergeant John Mattingly was wounded in the deadly late night raid on March 13 after he and two other officers breached the door of Taylor's home while serving a 'no-knock' search warrant.

    Taylor's boyfriend Kenneth Walker had mistaken the cops for intruders and fired a 'warning shot' at the door, striking Mattingly in the thigh and prompting officers to return fire....

    ...The report, however reveals Mattingly was hit by a 9mm round and only one 9mm casing was found at the scene that was fired from Walker's Glock handgun.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...d-Kenneth-Walker-ballistics-report-shows.html

    Warning shots are fired in the air or into the ground or a mattress or a couch not AT the target.
     
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    911 goes to an emergency dispatcher NOT the police.
     
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    Oh FFS...

    What number do you call to get the police ?

    JFC
     
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    the same same you call for EMS and Fire and Rescue.
     
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    Apparently they were interested in boyfrie along with the ex-boyfriend:
     
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    911 does not go to the police it goes to a dispatcher who then calls whichever agency needs to be called.
     
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    Here is another version of what happened:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html
     
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    Just an FYI for all of you....you're all correct. It just depends on the local laws/area. Some areas use a third party dispatcher, others use police themselves. Just depends on the area. However it IS going more and more to third party dispatchers. You can even go to school to specifically become a 911 dispatcher now a days.
     
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    It's county emergency management everywhere I know of, they dispatch to the other government agencies in the various jurisdictions. There's probably a dozen different police forces in my county and the same fire and rescue then the sheriff then state patrol then various EMT services, airlift services. 911 is a separate office.

    But back to the point after they knocked and announced their presence and no response the busted the door open and he fired AT them not some warning shot and hit one of the officers and at that point they had a right to self defense.
     
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    You're late to the thread, so, yes, I realize I had originally rec'd some inaccurate information, which was reinforced by inital article I linked in my 1st post. I would like you to know that, for me, "truth," is always my goal, not proffering talking points to support either the, "left's," or, "right's," perspective. Hence, when hawgsalot said that I was misinformed, I not only looked into it but also posted my apology & correction, including a link to the NY Times. See my posts #32 & #36, on pg. 2 of the thread, both of which have links to a Times article. I would check out your link except that it is dated August 8th, so the information is older & could only be less accurate than the late Sept. article I've already read & listed (but hadn' t at the time of my initial post, which is what you replied to). Nevertheless, I appreciate your attempt to help me be better informed.

    Wouldn't it would be a nice feature if one could click on a poster, w/in a thread, & see a listing of their posts just in that thread? As it is, though, you'd have to go searching through all my posts, which I wouldn't expect anyone to do. So, the list of my other early posts-- if you're interested in both my sincere pursuit & relating of the truth, as best as I understand it-- includes, also on pg. 2, #41; and on pg. 3, #56, #62, & #69. I especially recommend, on pg. 8, my post #177, because I tried to catch up some other posters on what had happened in the earlier part of the thread (my NY Times link appeared here, as well). Happy posting!
     
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    So he called the Police.

    JFC !!!!!
     
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    Heh, in my county we outsource to the next county over. I call 911 for an ambulance and I get someone 30 miles away who then dispatches it back to my local area. I always found that funny.

    Agreed. The guy also had a right to self defense since he didn't know who as at his door. Apparently the guy and Breonna thought it was Breonna's ex. At least from my current understanding. The police just released over 4 thousand pages of documents.
     
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    So he DID call the police.

    JFC. The attempts to tow the party line are embarrassing.
     
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    They didnt knock. If thats true, then Walker cannot be charged with shooting a police officer. But you knew that
     
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    What number do you call to get the police ?

    FFS, stop trying to obfuscate the discussion. He dialed 9-1-1 because THATS HOW YOU CALL THE POLICE !!!
     
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    Just because you call 9-1-1 doesn't mean you are talking to police. All I was doing was pointing out some facts. Has nothing to do with obfuscating. I just saw your guy's posts and figured I'd enlighten you a bit. Don't even know exactly the line of discussion that led to those three posts that I quoted. So, instead of freaking out how about ya just say "thanks" and get on with your discussion.
     
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    Yes. They did knock. That you refuse to believe that is irrelevant.

    However, they are not going to charge him with murder or attempted murder. And well they shouldn't. He didn't hear the knock. He was using self defense. However that does not negate the police firing back in self defense also. Which is why they were not charged with anything remotely near such a charge. The guy and the cops have a right to self defense when looked at from each of their perspectives. The guy having a right to self defense does not negate the cops right to self defense.
     
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    I think the one officer charged in this incident (to appease the mob) basically will have three tiers to his defence;

    1. Contagious gunfire, he heard the shots from the other officers and thought they were still under fire, he did not shoot blindly but fired at their muzzle flashes, thinking they were the gunman.

    2. He did not expect the rounds he was using to over-penetrate the walls of the apartments, they were of a type which should not have done that.

    3. If he has been charged with reckless endangerment why has Taylor's boyfriend and the other officers not been charged with the same?

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    If the BF truly did fire as soon as someone entered, then it is he who acted recklessly. Breaking my door down does not automatically make me fear for my life. I'm aware that I live in a city with a police force. It could be a cop. My apt building could be on fire and someone could be trying to warn me. It could be just a drunk idiot. I'm at least going to get a look at the intruder before just shooting someone for breaking down my door.
     
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    SO you are unaware of the Castle Doctrine?
     
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    I'm fully aware of the BFS position as I have been in that exact situation before. I believe he was just like me: gun ready and aimed, waiting for the intruder. That fact that he fired just 1 shot and it was a hit leans toward this. I could have done the same thing this guy did and just waited (intruder was already in my house) until he rounded the corner and just lit him up. But knowing my advantage, I chose not to wait, but to announce that I was armed (deescalate). It worked. Again I was justified in waiting silently and shooting, but that would have been reckless, and even cruel of me.
     
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