Guess which person is NOT allowed in Kroger's Grocery Store ! (pic)

rambo gotta eat.
Whats funny is, at least to me, if he were wearing a uniform of some type, people would not be nervous by in large... whereas I would be. armed citizens dont worry me.
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1. I've never voted in my life and I don't intend to.

2. I don't know where you got that 98.2% figure

3. Nice avatar.

Getting back to the thread topic...

On top of what I said earlier, I'd like to add that I would probably be less afraid of someone open carrying a pistol than I would be of someone open carrying a rifle, even though the pistol is still very lethal and possibly more effective in a cramped space like a grocery store. Such is the irrational mindset of the anti gun crowd.

 

More war on women......

 

Lol... funny! Yeah, I know Rambo gotta eat, but for Rambo to be packing his rifle while he's checking out hamburger.... well, I would wonder.....

Armed uniforms in stores don't concern me b/c often there's some idiot who thinks he's entitled to free steak and beer from a grocery store... and there's always shoplifters who have to be dragged out of the department stores........

Armed citizens is a good thing and seems to now be a necessity, but I just think the less of a show they make of it, the better.... but that's just my humble opinion.

 

If there is no advantage to open carry, than why do most cops do it??????



I'm sure most police officers can conceal their firearms if they wanted to... but they don't.

 

Why would someone bring an assault rifle to a grocery store? Are people really that paranoid?

 

It can when it's abnormal and stupid behavior which carrying a rifle into a grocery store for no reason is. My first thought if I saw someone walking around armed like that wouldn't be "oh, it's just a dude exercising his 2nd amendment right like a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)bag", it would be "holy (*)(*)(*)(*) that guy has a gun in a place where there's no need to have one for any reason except that you plan on using it".

This isn't the 1800s. Open carry may be legal but it doesn't mean it's necessary or a good idea. Leave the rifles at home and carry a concealed pistol. It serves the same purpose with none of the showboating and scaring folks who think you're psychotic because you're carrying a rifle around in a grocery store or a restaurant for absolutely no reason.

 

why would people bring ice cream into a grocery store?

 

Other people disagree.. Deal with it...

 

Why would someone bring an assault rifle to a grocery store..Get people acquainted to firearms. Some people believe if they see a gun, it will magically shot them... this will help them realize guns are just tools that can be used for good or bad. I was on the fence as to if open carry in stores was a good thing or a bad thing for the 2nd amendment movement. I am slowly siding on "it's a good thing".

People are being acclimated to the sight of firearms. The public is getting less and less afraid of them which is a good thing.

 

But it does. Someone who disregards the notion that there is a time and place for everything most certainly scares me. Please note, its not the weapon that concerns me.

 

I agree with most of your post.

I just wanted to add that I've lived in rural Pennsylvania since I was 5(I'm 32 now). While I've never been a hunter, I've had a plethora of friends and family that have been. The schools around here get the first day of doe season off from school.

Other than people coming from in and out of the local hardware store where they sell guns and ammo(a place you wouldn't be surprised to see someone carrying or holding a firearm), I've never seen anyone just walking around with a gun. Pennsylvania law may be different than other places, I'm not sure because I don't own firearms or pay much attention to the laws about where you can carry them.

I think the problems that open carrying for no reason like the guy in advertisement does is that we don't live in a society where people regularly open carry or even have need to. If this where Africa or the Middle East where there's war pretty much right around the corner no matter where you are, it would be different. So I can't say I'd be able to really blame a person who is also carrying who whips out their weapon to take down the guy carrying around an assault rifle variant in a restaurant or grocery store because there's absolutely no logical reason for that person to be carrying that type of weapon in that place unless they planned on using it.

I just think common sense here is the best approach. People carrying around rifles and large weapons in public places where they have no reason to have them will do more to bolster the anti-gun view than it will to support 2nd amendment rights.

And just to put it out there, I have no problem with people owning weapons, having them in their vehicles or carrying concealed pistols if they have the permits for them. I'd love to buy a pistol for myself actually, but since it's one of those things I don't need, I'd rather get the one I want instead of the cheapest one I can find. I hvae my eye on a $450 9mm at the local hardware store but there always seems to be other expenses that seem more important to spend the money on.

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Other people are allowed to disagree and I'm quite okay with that. But I am well within my rights to point out the inherent stupidity of carrying that weapon like that woman is. Guns are not something you should be flashing around for social status or personal enjoyment outside of a gun show or a hunting lodge or some type of place where it actually makes sense to have to be carrying around a weapon.

 

Carrying a long gun like that around in public is extremely impractical and only intended to make a point. Now, this...



Far more effective and practical as a personal defensive weapon.

 

That is not an assault rifle.

Lest anyone forget, long guns started showing up at open carry events mostly because that was what was legal to do so with, as in Texas.

 

What about knives? What about glass containers that can be broken into razor-sharp shards? What about kitchen utensils? An accurately thrown watermelon can do a lot of damage.

You didn't learn anything from Target, where as soon as they ANNOUNCED they were a 'gun-free' zone they became a - ahem - TARGET for robberies? Let's do more of that to make sure all of our stores are vulnerable to attack and all the patrons inside.

 

Sorry, but being near someone with a weapon out like that would make me very cautious, at the very least.

 

If there wasn't a movement to demonize firearms by the left, than I would agree with you. But there is a movement to ban firearms. There is a movement to make firearms into something that it is not -- a weapon that cannot be allowed into the hands of ordinary people. Firearms make people crazy according to some liberals. Because of this I support people carrying around firearms. It shows that scary looking firearms like the ar15 can be safe and wouldn't magically kill people.

Enjoy your 2nd amendment rights. Crazy people have sacrificed a lot for you to have it. Without "crazy people" doing these types of "crazy" things (open carry), you wouldn't have your 2nd amendment rights. They would have been gone by now.

 

Not needed until you’re in a gun-free store where an armed robber threatens you and everyone around you, and you are completely rendered helpless. This wouldn’t be a problem is more people would just exercise their right to carry. I mean, how threatened are you when a cop walked in with his side arm or an AR? Why should you feel any more threatened because it’s a citizen?

 

Paranoia is a state of mind of YOUR choosing. My behavior, unless it directly threatens you, causes you absolutely no harm. So your response to this is YOURS not the gun carrier. A car is more likely to drive into the front of the store injuring and killing people than this guy is to start randomly shooting.

 

Why not? The social status I get out of that is the woman is expressing her 2nd amendment rights. The women is properly carrying that AR. The gun doesn’t even have a magazine in it. I think guns are meant to be flashed around as a means to say “if you’re going to rob this place you might want to give it a second thought”. The intended purpose is to make the statement that you have the means to effectively defend yourself and other innocent people around you. We’ve gone far too long with accepting that the only people that should carry guns are cops. Well, now most of you don’t even trust them. Well, the only people left to trust that WILL carry guns are criminals.

 

You're projecting. I didn't say anything about not carrying guns or that only cops should have them. I said it's not necessary to walk around with an assault rifle variant on your back, clip or no clip. If you want to carry a weapon, carry a concealed pistol. Carrying your weapon around like that woman is is just showing off and trying to be cool.

 

Please show me how people openly carrying rifles into stores and restaurants has protected my 2nd amendment rights in the past. Please show me how this is anything but a social statement to those around you that you're a gun lover. This isn't like wearing your favorite sport's teams jersey. These are deadly weapons and they shouldn't be paraded around for social status and image.

I'm not saying you shouldn't carry a gun, I'm saying that it's completely unnecessary to carry a rifle into a store that isn't a gun store where you're taking your rifle to for a specific reason. If you want to carry, don't be a an obnoxious showboat, carry a concealed pistol which will serve you better in a store situation should you have to use it in the first place.

 

You can call what you want, the fact is we have a second amendment right to carry; whether you feel it's necessary or not is moot. You don't get to decide what's necessary for others. And you trying to get inside people's heads is just arrogant assuming you know what that woman's intent was.

 

Because the citizen is a lot more likely to start shooting everyone they see maybe. I mean, perhaps you could point to a situation where a uniformed police officer went a mass shooting spree on innocent people. I can't think of one.

 

Right. Neither was that nut who shot up the theater in Colorado. He was just simply exercising his 2nd amendment rights right up until the moment he pointed at people and shot them. Instances like these make it very reasonable to fear for your life when you see someone with an assault rifle in a grocery store. I have never seen someone carrying one in a grocery store, but if I did, I would absolutely worry about their intentions and could easily understand why anyone might fear for their life.