Hajj Qasem and his key disciple Muhandis killed

That's because Trump broke the deal.

 

Yes and no. The "deal" by Obama was that Iran wasn't to build a nuke
for a set period of time. After which Iran was free to do what they liked.
This Qasem guy spoke of a radioactive cloud over Tel Aviv, and his govt
boasted of Israel being a "one bomb country" so put yourself in the shoes
of Israel.
These boasts were long before Trump. I suggest you take the boasts at
face value.

 

Donald simply broke the deal. Period.

Obama didn't made any deal. The US was just part of it.

Nope. It still would be bound to the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons pact.

Iran just said they will not be bound by nuclear deals because the US executes their military leaders.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/01/05/iran-abandons-nuclear-deal-over-us-killing-general/

Good job Donald making Tel Aviv "safer". lol

 

The nuclear threats against Israel went back long before current events.
Israel claims that Iran is free to build a nuclear weapon after ten years.
Iran won't be constrained by any further treaties.

 

American nuclear threads go back a long time ago. And the Americans still support that they threw WMD's on Japan. And Israel is totally mute in this discussion since they refuse to be a signatory to the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons pact like Iran.

 

Well I guess Trump has now got what he wanted, Iran has thrown the JCOPA in the bin

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-suleimani-killing-iraqi-parliament-us-troops

You will notice that Iran is still leaving open the door for ending this madness.

 

Who signs and who doesn't isn't the issue. The nature of the government
is a very big issue. I have no issue with France and England having the
bomb, I have a big issue with North Korea and Iran having it.
Pointing to America in WWII is not the issue - that's just "moral equivalency"
and very different situation.

 

Iran could have ended this madness a long while ago.
It began with the illegal hostage crisis, continued with
its covert nuclear weapon program, exacerbated by
threats against the West, backed up with terror attacks
against Jews, Americans and dissidents overseas,
enflamed by the missile arming of Hezbollah under the
noses of the UN and so on, so on, so on.

 

Of course it is an issue. You are bound by rules when you signed the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons pact. Israel refuses to be a signatory of that pact, but demand Iran complies to the rules of the pact it signed. It's hilariously hypocritical.

I am pointing to the fact that the majority of Americans still support that they threw their nukes on civilians.
That shows that the Americans still have very low morals towards ideas of WMDing civilians today.

 

It began by the US making a coup happen against the elected government of Iran. And having their fascist puppet torture and execute people to death by the 1000's a year. The US and the West have been absolute hostile when they kicked out that fascist and the Americans who kept him in place out of Iran. It was a total rape of their sovereignty and well within their rights. It says it all you just happen to forget what started this. Very dishonest of you. While there is nothing wrong with Irans nuclear program.

 

If you refer to the Shah, then sure, this guy killed quite a few.
The Shah wanted to go further and machine gun the protestors,
like they are doing in Iraq, Syria etc but the Americans told him
that wasn't nice. And then you get the Ayatollah and his fanatics
taking over.

 

You go source that. As far as I know,
the US supported the Shah all the way.

 

No, Carter (?) prevented the Shah from taking draconian measures
against the Islamists. It was a human rights issue, and probably an
issue of America being seen to support such behavior. The Shah
went to the US for medical treatment and the Ayatollah returned to
Iran - ostensibly to be a religious leader only.

 

He took draconian measures against democracy. The US supported him torturing 10.000's of political prisoners. I already sourced this.

 

A few weeks ago Iran gunned down 1500 people. The Supreme Leader told the army
the Revolution was in danger - and to do what they had to do. They recall how the Shah
fell because his hands were tied when people started protesting.

 

This is what is wrong with it.
Iran has had a covert nuclear weapons program.
If Iran gets a nuke then Egypt, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have all stated
that they too will get the nuke because they hate and fear Iran.
And then the entire Middle East gets the nuke.
And the nuclear non-proliferation treaty is over, and 200 nations all get
nukes.
"Nothing wrong" indeed.

 

H

I would feel safer with a German Shepherd.

 

The Shah did not replace some "supreme leader" the Shah replaced a democratic government through elections.
And the US arranged that coup to remove democracy and install fascism. Them are the historic facts.

 

They don't. It's just a fake claim like the claim that Iraq supposedly had wmd's.

In that case. Israel has nukes. Hardly anybody contests that. And so they all should be having nukes.

 

It's accepted that Iran has for a long time had a covert nuclear program. They
have admitted as much. AND, Iraq DID have WMD's - they used them on the
poor Kurds and Iranians.
The issue with nukes is essentially this - some nations have nukes and it isn't
a problem, ie France and England. But other nations having nukes IS a BIG
problem, ie Iraq, Iran, Syria and Nth Korea. It's the NATURE OF THE REGIME
POSESSING NUKES THAT'S THE ISSUE.
Israel has nukes. And we all know what they are going to be used for - if there's
a battle against the Muslim world that Israel is losing.
We know what Iran would use a nuke for - it boasts of a "radioactive cloud over
Tel Aviv" and calling Israel a "one bomb country." And the former statement BTW
came from your general who was assassinated.

 

For civilian purposes. The nuclear bomb claim is all fiction.

The US lied to it's own people and the entire world that Iraq had WMD's in order to justify attack Iraq. The ranting that Iran is going for nukes, is all based on hot air from the same far right wing hawks.

Only 1 country used nukes. And that was the US. And do note...
The US used 2 nukes against civilians!
These days a majority of the Americans still support that they deliberately massacred civilians.
That's a massive problem right there, buddy.

So far Israel is the most condemned nation on the planet for their ongoing rape of the Geneva Conventions.... with their ethnic cleansings to colonize occupied territory. Both are war crimes. The "collateral" damage is utterly massive by the Israeli Jews. They refuse to cooperate with any independent inquiry who wants to look into it. Says it all. Seems rather fair countries should protect themselves against such a paria country. Actually they have that right to protect themselves!

 

So, obviously Israel doesn't have the bomb then, otherwise it would be using it
on Arabs and Persians. It's all about the rape and killing of innocent Muslims
so wouldn't it be easier to just set off a few nukes? Can't understand how Israel
can't defeat tiny Gaza - it's a "one bomb" territory isn't it?

ps beware of the dreaded "independent inquiry" - is it pro-Israel or anti-Israel?
How to tell - if it condemns Arabs for terrorism, rejection of land deals, taking
hostages etc then it's pro-Israel. And if it claims, like UNESCO that Israel's
ancient capital of Jerusalem has belonged to Arabs for 3,000 years then it's
pro-Arab.

pps The two atom bombs on Japan did about 2% of all the damage America
did to that country. The incendiary bomb was the one to watch.

 

I don't get it how you can conclude such a thing.

Simple fact that Israel has refused all independent inquiries since who knows.
Even when a South African Jew headed the inquire.... still wasn't good enough.
It does say it all. Your excuses are hilarious. It's the most condemned nation on the planet.
Take a hint! lol

It's still the country deliberately targeting civilians to through nuclear bombs at.
That is a massive problem! It's far worse than a person like Bin Laden ever did.

 

Someone needs to have an enquiry into why the Arabs did not accept the hundreds of
peace plans from the 1920's, not even the 1967 border one. This enquiry will look into
why today, 2020, that Fatah's Facebook page, speaks of its children as "ammunition."
And this enquiry would look into why 97% restoration of land plus 3% within Israel is
not good enough for the Palestinian. We might look at how it is the world came to the
brink of nuclear war twice over Arab issues with a tiny sliver of land that's 0.01% of the
Middle East. And should we touch upon terrorism - why target civilians in buses and
restaurants and schools?
Plain fact is that the Jews belong to Israel, not the johny-come-lately Muslim Arabs
who invaded the Levant in the 6 or 7th Century.

 

And if it's a big win you'll give them all the credit?