Hamas rockets reach Jerusalem and Tel Aviv

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  1. Taxcutter

    Taxcutter New Member

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    Fortunately Iron Dome intercepted those rockets that might actually hit anything.

    http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Prot...ts-second-rocket-over-greater-Tel-Aviv-361994

    quote:

    “Air raid sirens rang out in Greater Tel Aviv, and in Jerusalem, Kfar Saba and the Binyamina area on Tuesday evening…”

    “An Iron Dome battery intercepted the incoming rocket over Tel Aviv.”

    “…none of the rockets fired from Gaza hit in side the capital…”


    Taxcutter notes:
    Iron Dome’s combination of radar and fast, powerful computers predicts which incoming missiles will hit in an inhabited area and which ones will impact empty desert or in the sea. Those that will hit empty desert or the sea are ignored. Potentially dangerous missiles are intercepted.

    Iron Dome is basically an improved version of the US Patriot system. The IDI, IDF, US Army and US defense contractors are working to improve Iron Dome even more. Patriot is getting to be an elderly weapons system, brought into service nearly 30 years ago. The engineers are working to integrate Iron Dome – which excels at hitting smaller targets – with the Patriot system (effective against aircraft and larger missiles) and the USN Standard missile which is effective against fast-moving targets up to and including ICBMs. US rail gun and laser tech will allow Iron Dome to engage even smaller missiles.


    Quote:
    “Iron Dome intercepted 23 rockets, shooting down rockets over Ashdod, Ashkelon and Gaza border communities.”

    “Israel launched Operation Protective Edge against Hamas after concluding that any hopes for reaching a truce with the regime were baseless…”

    “For our part, the goal is to reach zero rockets or attacks from the Gaza Strip. We will carry out this campaign until we reach that goal. We will exact a heavy price, as we have already begun to do, from this organization, so that it understands not to fire on our civilians or soldiers,”



    Taxcutter says:
    Iron Dome looks pretty much air-tight, but the Law of Large Numbers guarantees that if Hamas launches enough rockets, one will get through. Therefore it appears that another IDF curb-stomp of Hamas is in order.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know it's cynical, but I almost wish one of these rockets hits something vital and thus force Israel's hand at eradicating the threat. Is it not what Palestinians wants, too? To become Martyrs on a grandiose scale?
     
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    Palestinians are the cause of violence in the Middle East !!
     
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    Good, let's hope they hit something next time. Let the rockets rain on them.
     
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    This will not end well....for anyone.
     
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    Paleos are war criminals and we should support Israel to hunt them down and give em justice.
     
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    And that's the real tragedy. It just goes on and on. Listening to part of the story about the latest Israeli air raids yesterday on NPR, I heard the obligatory part where doctors say they're already running low on medical supplies to care for the big increase in shrapnel wounds. My inner voice responded before I even thought about it:
    They can smuggle in all of those rockets and other weapons, but didn't bring enough medical supplies? Whose fault is that?
     
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    It really won't end until the Israelis and paleos are no longer in close proximity.
     
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    Without the dead and serious wounded to show the world, what would Hamas do to get sympathy from the ignorant masses around the world?
     
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    Those poor Jews...

    both_sides_of_gaza_conflict_by_latuff2.jpg
     
  11. Taxcutter

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    Hamas' big problem that their old supporters in the EU are too busy worrying about Putin. No time for Hamas' trivia.
     
  12. MGB ROADSTER

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    Even Arabs hate Palestinians the most, next to Jews.
     
  13. Durandal

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    They aren't helping matters much, but then I can understand their getting a little feisty in response to having their land and homes seized by the 'Jewish state' of Israel.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    "I can understand their getting a little feisty" ??? Are you serious !! ??
    Can you imagine your comfy home in Europe or USA being bombed every night by rockets & missles ??
    Gazans are ruled by evil terror Hamas - they should be crushed like bugs !!
     
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    Well in this part of Europe there are quite a few people who can remember bombing day and night.

    Talking to a few of them they do wonder whether it was worth it or not, especially the ones who, having faced Hitler for 6 years they then found themselves being attacked by Zionist terrorists!
     
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    Genocide much?

    Quit stealing other's property, you mooching, entitlement, foreign tax payer funded deadbeats.
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Can you tell us who 70 years ago faced Hiltler for 6 years and then found themselves being attacked by terrorists ??? :eyepopping:
     
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    The British old boy, the British! Is your knowledge of history that bad?
     
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    Well said. - RiaRaeb. -:wink:


    MGB is just repeating the same crap excuses which Israel's propagandists are spreading to hide the truth . Its not about rockets, its about stolen Palestinian lands. here are the facts :


    "This is not just about the foul murder of three Israelis in the occupied West Bank or the foul murder of a Palestinian in occupied East Jerusalem. Nor about the arrest of many Hamas militants and politicians in the West Bank. Nor about rockets. As usual, it’s about land


    . But wait, how come all those Palestinians – all 1.5 million – are crammed into Gaza in the first place? Well, their families once lived, didn’t they, in what is now called Israel? And got chucked out – or fled for their lives – when the Israeli state was created.

    And – a drawing in of breath is now perhaps required – the people who lived in Sederot in early 1948 were not Israelis, but Palestinian Arabs. Their village was called Huj.

    Nor were they enemies of Israel. Two years earlier, these same Arabs had actually hidden Jewish Haganah fighters from the British Army. But when the Israeli army turned up at Huj on 31 May 1948, they expelled all the Arab villagers – to the Gaza Strip! Refugees, they became. David Ben Gurion (Israel’s first Prime Minister) called it an “unjust and unjustified action”. Too bad. The Palestinians of Huj were never allowed back.

    And today, well over 6,000 descendants of the Palestinians from Huj – now Sederot – live in the squalor of Gaza, among the “terrorists” Israel is claiming to destroy and who are shooting at what was Huj. Interesting story.

    And same again for Israel’s right to self-defence. We heard it again today. What if the people of London were being rocketed like the people of Israel? Wouldn’t they strike back? Well yes, but we Brits don’t have more than a million former inhabitants of the UK cooped up in refugee camps over a few square miles around Hastings.

    The last time this specious argument was used was in 2008, when Israel invaded Gaza and killed at least 1,100 Palestinians (exchange rate: 1,100 to 13). What if Dublin was under rocket attack, the Israeli ambassador asked then? But the UK town of Crossmaglen in Northern Ireland was under rocket attack from the Irish Republic in the 1970s – yet the RAF didn’t bomb Dublin in retaliation, killing Irish women and children.

    In Canada in 2008, Israel’s supporters were making the same fraudulent point
    . What if the people of Vancouver or Toronto or Montreal were being rocket-attacked from the suburbs of their own cities? How would they feel? But the Canadians haven’t pushed the original inhabitants of Canadian territory into refugee camps.


    And now let’s cross to the West Bank. First of all, Benjamin Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Palestinian “President” Mahmoud Abbas because he didn’t also represent Hamas. Then when Abbas formed a unity government, Netanyahu said he couldn’t talk to Abbas because he had unified himself with the “terrorist” Hamas. Now he says he can only talk to him if he breaks with Hamas – even though he won’t then represent Hamas.

    Meanwhile, that great leftist Israeli philosopher Uri Avnery – 90 years old and still, thankfully, going strong – has picked up on his country’s latest obsession: the danger that Isis will storm west from its Iraqi/Syrian “caliphate” and arrive on the east bank of the Jordan river.

    “And Netanyahu said,” according to Avnery, “if they are not stopped by the permanent Israeli garrison there (on the Jordan river), they will appear at the gates of Tel Aviv.” The truth, of course, is that the Israeli air force would have crushed Isis the moment it dared to cross the Jordanian border from Iraq or Syria.

    The importance of this, however, is that if Israel keeps its army on the Jordan (to protect Israel from Isis), a future “Palestine” state will have no borders and will be an enclave within Israel, surrounded on all sides by Israeli-held territory.

    “Much like the South African Bantustans,” says Avnery. In other words, no “viable” state of Palestine will ever exist. After all, aren’t Isis just the same as Hamas? Of course not.

    But that’s not what we heard from Mark Regev, Netanyahu’s spokesman. No, what he told Al Jazeera was that Hamas was “an extremist terrorist organisation not very different from Isis in Iraq, Hezbollah in Lebanon, Boko Haram…” --- Tosh. Hezbollah is a Shia militia now fighting to the death inside Syria against the Sunni Muslims of Isis. And Boko Haram – thousands of kilometres from Israel – is not a threat to Tel Aviv.

    But you get the point. The Palestinians of Gaza – and please forget, forever, the 6,000 Palestinians whose families come from the land of Sederot – are allied to the tens of thousands of Islamists threatening Maliki of Baghdad, Assad of Damascus or President Goodluck Jonathan in Abuja. Even more to the point, if Isis is heading towards the edge of the West Bank, why is the Israeli government still building colonies there – illegally, and on Arab land – for Israeli civilians?

    This is not just about the foul murder of three Israelis in the occupied West Bank or the foul murder of a Palestinian in occupied East Jerusalem. Nor about the arrest of many Hamas militants and politicians in the West Bank. Nor about rockets. As usual, it’s about land

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...israelis-arent-telling-this-week-9596120.html
     
  20. free man

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    This is not such a good suggestion.
    Israelis actually bothered to build bomb shelters for every person, so when those rockets come, most of the people get an early warning and stay at the bomb shelter.
    This reduces the number of people getting hit.
    In addition, Israel developed Iron-Dome an anti missile system the blow the missile in the air.
    When the Gazan send rockets at Israel, Israel shoot them back and since they never bother to build bomb shelters more people get heart.
    So what you are calling here is for more Gazan to die.
    I thought you were their friend, but it turned up all you want is to see more of them dead and more Gazan children wounded.
     
  21. Taxcutter

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    From this we can deduce that Gazans should resist Hamas.
     
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    What good will that do ?
    For start they cannot aim the thing and if by miracle it hits, it will not even scratch the paint of that facility.
     
  24. Durandal

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    Back when America was first being conquered by the Europeans, they had to worry about the period equivalent as the natives would fight militarily and raid the settlements of civilians. Were they wrong to do that? I don't think so. They were defending their lands from encroaching invaders.

    Anyway, Israel blows up lots of comfy Gazan homes every time they get feisty. It's tit for tat, isn't it? And skewed far in Israel's favor, too.
     
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    To elevate themselves to the next level of being nuclear terrorists.
     

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