Here is a real gun control proposal that doesn't ban any guns (that aren't already)

I know LOTS of guys who want machine guns without paying the tax, and not a few who want cannons. (The local VFA have been campaigning to make the old Bofors guns they have out front operative for YEARS now.)

 

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It makes sense to punish murder, bank robbery, and speeding. Why punish a law abiding gun owner? You’re not punishing the criminal with these laws. By passing those ideas the only people that will be effected are those with no plans of murder, bank robbery. How will it stop crime?

 

With all the confiscation talk by even presidential contenders why would I want the government to know what I have?

 

Again, I've never met an AntiFa in the flesh. It would be really easy for some guy to just say he was one and see this as his golden opportunity to get some free liquor

 

You can publish news and you don’t need a registration. That’s ridiculous. There are free lance bloggers everywhere.

Editors don’t need a license to edit, get out of here.

you don’t have to register to be a homeowner either.

 

Beside Buttagieg I don't know of any Presidential contenders who say that.

Again, if you're not planning on doing illegal things with your gun what are you so concerned about?

 

No, not okay.

 

Like I said! Read my post how many times do you want me to repeat myself? Presidential candidates have argued for confiscation. Why would I tell them what I have?

 

Hillary said she supports an Australian style buy back (a mandatory buy back). In other words, confiscation.

that’s two democrats in the last two presidential elections that have advocated for it. It’s not a make believe argument.

 

That's the beauty of this law, the gang members won't register which means law enforcement could go in and go person to person and find who has a gun force them to show their ID and arrest everyone who is not registered and send them straight to jail locking them up. This is how you eradicate organized crime.

That goes hand in hand with the enforcement and getting illegal guns off the street. Police could start sending those who don't have their guns registered to jail and remove the guns from society.

It's to protect cops and drivers so they know how to handle the situation.

If the sale in improper they can now prove it really easily. Check your ID and it will say you have a gun in your possession when the gun is seen and shown not to be in correct possession both get charged for the straw.

This is to both a safety reason and to help prove who sold straw purchase because you report the gun you sold, then the person you sold it to proves it, now you're in deeper trouble.

Note this would mostly apply to parents letting their children use their guns or people found to have let a minor use their gun not stolen guns. The stolen gun gets reported and is found with the minor, there is no charge unless they can prove you gave it to them.

 

And most of us law abiding gun owners will not comply either, turning us into criminals due to an unconstitutional law. Great plan.

 

What’s their reason for the search? Are you about destroying the whole constitution for a bit of safety? Where’s the freedom for that? You can’t just search someone for any reason.

 

With the amount of illegal guns out there this will never end. Mexico is a perfect example

 

Who does that except for hunting? I don’t know of a single parent that has ever said here kiddo take my Glock for a test drive, make sure you’re back by midnight.

 

The reason for the search is seeing a gun or a gun like shape under a shirt or pant. Only reason needed.

 

You don’t know how easy it is to conceal a pistol do you. I can carry and you will never know it. I concealed carried in utah when concealed carry wasn’t legal without a permit. (Illegal) yet I never got caught. And the fact it was illegal didn’t allow police to obtain illegal guns any easier.

 

Then they can use checkpoints.

 

how would they know you had a gun?

Not if they didn't know you had a gun are you suggesting we live in a police state where they just get to search your house person in car anytime they wish without a warrant?

So not only do you want to repeal the Second Amendment you also want to repeal the fourth.

 

You should be allowed to have a machine guns without having to pay a punitive tax.

The first law against owning a machine gun was in the 1930s due to gang violence. Gangster still kill each other they probably did long before they were guns.

 

I don't think this proposal is about stopping crime I think it's about stopping gun ownership.

 

Police don't have the right to just do that. You need probable cause. Seeing a gun shape in somebody's clothing isn't probable cause to then demand their ID. Just like how police can't pull you over just to check if you have a driver's license.

When a police officer stops somebody that is a form of arrest.

 

The only real reason to ask someone to register their guns is so you can later confiscate them.

And this is a profoundly easy thing to deduce logically. Will a criminal register their gun if they plan on committing violent acts with it? Most likely not so that's a gun that you have no idea about. The only guns you know about are people that would be the least likely to commit violent Acts with the firearm. So the only value in that is to know whose house to break into when you want to confiscate.

This is what authoritarian regimes always do, whether they're communist or fascist.

 

The entire purpose of it is to interfere with gun ownership.

It has nothing to do with criminal Behavior. Criminals who intend to commit crime with their firearms tend not to register them.

 

Not your house, your car if they know you have a gun due to registration and you lie or in public if they see it and you lack registration.