"High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California"

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    CA has the highest income tax in the country, and the money they spend on subsidizing illegal immigrants and a whole lot of other liberal BS is the reason why.
     
  2. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    I've stated elsewhere that NV is now a blue state politically, which I attribute much to the influx of Californians fleeing the high taxes of CA, but bringing their CA politics with them. We have a high sales tax here, close to 8% I think, but no state income tax at all.

    Were it not for Las Vegas, we'd be a red state.
     
  3. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Republicans say the same thing in Oregon & Washington
     
  4. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So if California has the strongest economy in US and most of Europe, why can't we provide universal health care?

    "The economy of California is the largest in the United States, boasting a $2.9 trillion gross state product as of 2017. As a sovereign nation (2017), California would rank as the world's fifth largest economy, ahead of the United Kingdom but behind Germany."
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California
     
  5. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    One could do a lot of things, but this isn't something Democrats have done in the past when they had power nor is it something they advocate. Not even the village idiot...

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    ... is advocating that.
    Now, you're making up stuff.
    This doesn't even make sense. If they were real socialists, they would take over the assets.
    You want to get rid of Medicare and Social Security? I'm a senior, but I don't use Medicare or collect Social Security. Fine by me. How about you?
    They're not socialists. They favor more spending on social programs, higher taxes on higher income groups, more regulation on business, and more help for minorities and women.
     
  6. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How much of public education is funded by the federal government?
    In the 2004-05 school year, 83 cents out of every dollar spent on education is estimated to come from the state and local levels (45.6 percent from state funds and 37.1 percent from local governments). The federal government's share is 8.3 percent.
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    California has staggering debt. Do you want Delaware to fund our healthcare in CA?
     
  8. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I Enjoy discussions. What you are doing is not discussing.

    For one thing, you called me a liar.
     
  9. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    They aren't "socialist systems."
    It's not socialism unless government takes over the means of production.
     
  10. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    You can't make stuff up and not have someone point out it isn't true.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I say socialist, I happen to include all of the stages, not merely the final stage.

    FOLKS, think of my argument like this.

    Stormy Daniels is a highly experienced prostitute making a living having sex.

    But did she have to screw 500 men just be called that?

    She was one on the first trick.

    Socialists want you to believe it must be the entire last step taken and only then is it socialism.

    Were it Capitalism, they would not require it be 100 percent there yet. They would call it capitalism at a much earlier stage.

    Socialists never want you to think we have socialism. They want you kept in the dark.
     
  12. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But you expect to keep getting away doing it.
     
  13. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She is not a prostitute until she has sex with 1000 men in other words.
     
  14. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Capitalists never make this argument.

    "It's not socialism unless government takes over the means of production."

    Socialists do however make this exact argument.
     
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    Where do you get this BS? Anyway, check the highlighted text.

    Trump isn't your friend if you need social programs like Medicare, Social Security, and Medicaid.
     
  16. LangleyMan

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    I'm a capitalist and I make the argument.
     
  17. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    I don't make stuff up.
     
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    I don't need those programs and don't want them.

    But would like to get back as much as possible I have already was forced to pay into SS.
     
  19. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    Ah, now you're making up stuff about socialism having "stages."
    Socialism exists when the means of production are removed from private hands. Simple as that.
    Is that why they call themselves "socialists?"
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    HOLY CRAP...IT's SOCIALISM !!!

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  21. LangleyMan

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    Not as a share of the population.
    True. When I started teaching, students would catch turkeys before Thanksgiving and pick berries in the Spring. Before I retired, students looked at me like I was talking about the 1800s when I told them what kids used to do.
     
  22. LangleyMan

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    You need to get a clue.
     
  23. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To they sell them at Walmart ?
     
  24. LangleyMan

    LangleyMan Well-Known Member

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    The "old guy" I was talking about above. You're all heart. You have yours, so screw Joe and Jane American. What happens if they figure out the con and tell you to fight your own damn wars?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, full blown socialism.

    Democrats never will grasp socialism.
     
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