"High taxes be damned, the rich keep moving to California"

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods.

    Which is exactly what I said.
     
  2. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You brought houses into it, and I pointed out the fact that no one respects the walls of an abandoned house. Such walls will not keep anyone out, and can actually do the exact opposite, which is attract people in. Likewise, no one will respect walls in the desert when they can easily overcome them.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Those of you never having done field farm work, heed the words of myself. I have done it.

    I chopped cotton in the 5th grade. Do you know what that is? Weeding the rows of cotton is what we did. We used a special hoe, I learned how to correctly sharpen hoes that way. A child too. We had no mexicans at all in the field.

    I picked Currents too. Not for long, but I was paid to pick those small berries.

    I guess to a Democrat, the mexicans are just paid slaves.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, in no case of any type, will walls work. Frankly this is the rope a dope sold to us by Democrats. But they lie all the time.
     
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    Yeah, for over two years all the Democrats were saying was..."Impeach Trump."

    It was all a lie.
     
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    Your problem is that you think Trump has something else in mind for average folks.

    Trump's budget plans on cutting education 10%. Do you think cutting education helps Joe and Jane American to work on the skills they need to get the manufacturing jobs of the future? If we're not spending the money the way we should, how about fixing the problem instead of cutting?

    I keep wondering if you're an old guy with a lot of money who just wants more for himself, an average guy hoping Trump will cut spending on someone else, or maybe someone who doesn't understand.
     
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  7. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you from San Joaquin valley? I was born in Fresno. Texas/ California/ Arizona grow the most cotton in nation.
     
  8. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    So it's going to cost California taxpayers a lot of money to subsidize all those illegal immigrants; is that what you're saying? All that, so the wealthy elites and can keep living in their ivory towers, looking out upon the serfs working their fields, and the serfs sending their wages back to their foreign homes?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly where does federal money that is appropriate for education go to ?

    To the teachers unions where it makes its way to the DNC ?
     
  10. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I was born in the San Joaquin Valley. I went to 5th grade school in that valley.
     
  11. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ivory towers ???

    The Democrats in Sacramento outlawed ivory in California.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Personally I dont care how Democrats, or liberals or you, or any other wannabe/fake conservative defines it, and nor do I invent my own definitions. I use the actual definitions, which is what I posted earlier. And no, I am not a Dem, or liberal.
     
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  13. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We continue to raise taxes on the wealthy, more than any other state. The wealthy in California are overwhelmingly Democratic. Europeans pay much higher taxes.
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    My first real paying job was hoeing sugar beets as a 16 year-old. Me and a bunch of my classmates. It was a lot of fun, and I was able to make some nice spending money as well. So I've never bought into the argument that Americans can't do the work, or won't do it. It's a great learning experience for teenagers, and will serve them well for years to come.
     
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    There is no THE Democrats, so your claim is the whopper. Some Democrats were blathering away about impeachment, but they were always a minority.

    Why don't you stop propagandizing the forum?
     
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    Not as many kids these days.
     
  17. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I sure don't miss the Central valley heat. Redding/ Bakersfield are almost unbearable.
     
  18. pol meister

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    My guess is that European tax monies get spent mostly on Europeans. Sounds to me like California tax monies are being spent largely on illegal immigrants, at the expense of their own citizenry. I lived in California for most of the last 30 years. Moved to NV in 2012; just didn't want to be a part of it anymore.
     
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    No, most of their tax monies is not being spent on illegal immigrants. That is a bunch of crock, and you know it.
     
  20. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    Lot's of kids, more than ever, just not as many that are interested in doing manual labor, or any labor at all for-that-matter.
     
  21. carlosofcali

    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Fremont is over 50% Asian in case you haven't noticed. Republicans don't understand today's California and why the GOP has no influence here.
     
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    Here's what you said:

    "Socialism is an economic system where the government owns and operates means of production"

    That is not what socialism is. Socialism is common purse, collective living. Shared labor, shared expenses. Nothing to do with politics or Govt specifically.
     
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    google it. it means bonus, benefit, advantage, opportunity. so ARE these boons taking the recipients out of poverty, or not? are they WORKING?
     
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    carlosofcali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nevada = California-lite in case you haven't noticed election results.
     
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    That is actually the best system. Not dependent upon a high income, therefore accessible to all.
     

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