Hillary a liar? When? Where? How? Inform us.

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    See how when caught lying you divert but OK give us the source.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but no evidence national security was harmed except for Trump's lie which he of course made up and can't support. How do you actually manage to support someone who just lies about everything?
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    At least I have an education. Maybe the kindergarten will refund the money your parents spent for the highest degree you ever earned.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Nope the problem is Trump claimed he opposed going into the war not that he opposed it after it was an abject failure. Sorry but he lied and there is absolutly no evidence that he opposed the invasion of Iraq. Understand the difference?

    Here for you education is s the fact check on Trump's lies about Iraq. Read it and learn the truth.

    http://www.factcheck.org/2016/02/donald-trump-and-the-iraq-war/

    Will be anxiously awaiting your comments!
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    His opposition was good enough for thinkprogress.org. IOW, it is as good as gold. Factcheck.org, OTH, is no longer credible.

    “LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Billionaire Donald Trump, America's toughest employer, would like to fire the Bush Administration for its decision to invade Iraq, according to an interview in the August edition "Esquire," due to be released on Friday.”
    http://rense.com/general54/bushs.htm
     
  6. Arjay51

    Arjay51 Well-Known Member

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    Unlike you, I had actual teachers, not instructors. If you can't figure out the difference it explains a lot about your positions.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Sorry but he did lie about opposing the invasion. Opposition after the invasion doesn't count. Sorry but feel free to try again
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Happy you had kindergarten teachers. But perhaps you will use your limited abilities to explain the difference between kindergarten teachers and kindergarten instructors.
     
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    I figured that you would not know the difference, even with your personal attacks.

    A teacher guides you to think and make up your own mind after researching the subject.

    An instructor, usually a liberal, tells you what to think. Not how to think.

    It is obvious that you had nothing but instructors in your life. All the way from kindergarten (which apparently was the highlight of your education, which is why you love it so) and no one to teach you to make your own decisions. Liberal disconnect at its finest.
     
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    Not according to Think Progress, or Reuters. Why do you suppose they were so impressed with his opposition to the war?
    Could it be because Clinton, like so many DP "progressives" actually voted with the RP to go to war and fund the thing - many of them for 13 years now.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    trump claimed to have opposed the invasion befor it occured as part of his claim to be smarter on foreign policy than Hillary. That was a lie on Trump's part. Now to his credit he did recognize that the invasion was a mistake but only after the country and the Bush plan for democratizing the country fell totally apart and the country decended into chaos.

    Check the dates on the articles!
     
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    Even if true it is irrelevant, and I doubt that any of us have every statement he made on the war. Do you think Think Progress and Reuters were wrong to portray Trump as anti-war? ;-)
     
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    She clearly ENdangered it which is a violation of the law. As Coney said the actors involved are so sophisticated they would leave no evidence, unless theyblet out a press announcement we would never know. So the fact they are that good and that is your reason for defending her is not very convincing as to why she should be promoted to the White House.

    But what we do know is that her shadow service was wide open to such attacks by foreign governments and that those governments have played this administration lime they had xray vision knowing ahead at every step what was going in internally in this administration.
     
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    So, according to you, only the dimocrats can evolve on their positions. Very liberal of you saying that only those that agree with you are allowed to change their positions.
     
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    That has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Trump lied about opposing the invasion of Iraq. Evolving of a position is admirable but lying about one's position is just plain lying.
     
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    So you are saying only dimocrats can elvove from their lies but no one else can? You are digging the hole that you are in even deeper.
     
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    No changing one's ideas is entirely different from lying about one's past positions. Trump just plain lied when he said he was opposed to the Iraq invasion before it occured. And his lie was even greater when he said that he opposed the action in Libya when there is ample and irrefutable evidence that he not only supported Libya he openly advocated for it before it occured.
     
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    Changing ones positions is different from lying? Only if that person is a democrat and you support them. Double standard hypocrisy from the left, as usual.

    BTW, did you not realize that Hillary supported the invasion prior to being against it? Did she "evolve" or just plain lie? Did she "evolve" in changing her statement about landing under sniper fire in Bosnia, or was that a lie?

    People change in their convictions all the time but those such as you only cheer it when you think you can find political capital in it.
     
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    But they saw the markings. Did she miss them ? She claimed none were marked. She also claimed she turned all work related emails over to the State dept. As usual she lied
     
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    You seem unable to grasp the simple concept that changing your position is an entirely different thing from lying about what your position was. Everyone is allowed and even encouraged to evolve if the change is sincere and not just pandering but it is not OK to lie about what you have said or have done in the past. Trumps claims about opposing the invasion of Iraq before it occured and his claim that he opposed the action in Libya are just plain lies and nothing else.
     
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    You seem to be unable to grasp the concept that what is wrong with your opponents is also wrong with those you support. Go down the list of Hillary lies and you will see she has reversed herself for political expediency whenever the whim struck.

    Again, what is wrong for one is wrong for both. Not a had concept to understand.
     
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    Translation: 'Evolving' does not require having any principles.
     
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    They didn't see them to begin with because those two or three emails were the one's in question by the FBI. So no, initially they did not see them.

    Also, you all continually keep taking what Clinton was saying out of context with your own fabrications. When she said she turned over all work related emails of which there were thousands, it's like me saying I spilled my 10,000 piece puzzle on the carpet andsaying I picked them all up. Meaning, to the best of my ability I picked them all up. The only way for me really to know, would be to count them all. And so, you are trying to use her emails to say she is lying when not all of them were turned over. Your claim is ridiculous, and no one but a complete (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) would believe such nonsense.
     
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    Did you know she was given not only inaccurate information, but fabricated information to go along with it?
     
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    I know that is what she claims, or others on her behalf, but she is responsible for her own words and they are lies.
     

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