Fair point. But it all seems pretty straightforward. When homosexuals assert their right to be treated equally under the law, i.e. to be able to marry the person they want to (who is also a consenting adult), to be able to adopt children assuming they are otherwise qualified to be parents, then those are things that should be granted to them. I have seen that you assert that they do more than this, but I suspect that most of them do not, and know that many of them do not. So why lump it all into homosexualism? Why not just say you're opposed to the victimization of children, for example, and try to convince people of whatever will minimize that.
Even if that's true it proves nothing; unless you want to say Jesus approved of homosexuality. Jesus declared that he came to uphold the Law of Moses; which clearly does not approve of homosexuality
I refer to homosexuals as a movement not talking about them on an individual level. As a political movement they tend to exhibit the following characteristics: 1. opposition to Islam in particular 2. opposition to religion in general 3. want sexualization of society 4. want education system to introduce young children to sexuality at a much earlier age 5. want the education system to indoctrinate children to accept homosexuals as normal (whereas it would be fairer if the education system remains neutral on the issue) As a political movement, the homosexualists are one of the greatest adversaries of the Muslim minority communities living in the West, and fuel the ranks of Islamophobic groups. That much is quite obvious But we take special pride in being detested by homosexuals and being the object of their greatest scorn. It reinforces and confirms our theological view that they are evil people and we are the good guys The Qur'an says: We also (sent) Lot: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds. And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!" (Sura 7:80) Why do homosexualists say they want to be clean and pure as if it is a bad thing?
Islam is a pox on humanity. The Qur'an mentions waging war on non-believers repeatedly. Islam is in opposition to western culture and civilization entirely. How many world renowned colleges has Islam created? How many break through medical advancements have come from Islam? What do they produce? How have they bettered an invention such as an automobile or an air craft? What has Islam done in it's 1400 years of existence done but slay millions inslave millions more and subjugate women? All western culture opposes Islam. That's why we've been at war with the middle east for 30+ years. A few pc puppets that are more culturally suicidal than open minded will say it's a religon of peace. But they completely reject islamic ideology.
He didn't say he approved of using technology like computers and phones. So by your logic he condemned it, right? Well he effectively abolished the laws of Moses. Christians don't keep kosher, nor do they follow any Jewish traditions.
In a free society like America we allow people to be different so long as it is not harmful. This is one of many reasons that I love America.
Except if you did that it would make the statement untrue. So if his case is untrue than he can feel free to make it.
Consensus doesn't equate to truth. So yes it's untrue. If millions and millions don't think so, they would be wrong.
Just as wrong as you are right now. Millions of people who never met you think you are a pox on humanity. The billion muslims you never met should not be judged the same way
Okay list the things that islamic ideology has brought to the world to better it? So? Unless they can show 1400 yeasts of bloodletting at my hands they're wrong Why must you mischaracterize my statements every single time you respond? Why not just argue against my position verses emotional pleading in strawman nonsense
What? Are you kidding? Christianity has brought nothing to the world to better it. No religion has. How ridiculous! Millions have died from hiv. Some blame homosexuals for spreading this disease. They have an argument When someone says homosexuality is a pox on humanity they are being bigots. Don't be just like them
I invite you to make the case that Islam is not a pox on humanity without accusations of bigotry, emotional pleading regarding muslims that reject islamic ideology and moving the goal posts. You know a sound argument against mine. If you can, seems the only reason you resort to logical fallacy is because you can't argue against my point. If you could you would have.
I have made the best argument possible. Islam is as much a pox on humanity as homosexuality is. The case can be made for both in the same way....or we can admit that is bigotry and the FACT that 99.9 percent of Muslims have never attacked us.
Well it's still not an explanation of why islamic ideology isn't a pox on humanity. If that is the best you could produce my statement is true. Thanks for playing. I won't get into the minutia of your (*)(*)(*)(*)ty comparisons and poorly drawn simily. Because none of it explains how Islam isn't a pox on humanity. If you want to argue that homosexuality is a pox on humanity and that them justifies all other poxes I'll have a good belly laugh at your expense. If that's the best possible argument you really just stated in a round about way that I'm correct.
Islamic ideology most certainly is. And you haven't produced a single argument against that statement suggesting that you can't explain why it isn't. So my statement stands true. Thanks for playing. P.S. this isn't a personal issue for me. Attempting to make it personal is just an indication that you can't argue against my point.
Now it is a personal attack? It is ok for you to attack Muslims but to say something negative about homosexuality is a "personal" attack. Should Muslims consider themselves personally attacked by your views? The billion Muslims that you have never met living in peace and making the world and their communities a better place? Bigotry seems ok....until it hits too close to home - - - Updated - - - My statement also stands true then
You aren't showing me that Islamic ideology is not a pox on humanity. Thus all your claims of bigotry and hatred are unfounded. Every argument you make is to my character, not my point. That's called ad hominm and it's a logical fallacy. If you want to stand by it you go right ahead.
Islam is as much a pox on humanity as homosexuality is. I will stake my entire reputation on that statement
