How did Obamacare become law?

Discussion in 'Health Care' started by Hafez, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Spoken like a true wacko bird, alienated from America and in denial.

     
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    You are, yes. I wouldn't call myself a supporter of the Tea Pary movement either, but I do support their opposition to 0-care.
     
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    Yes, their futile stunt to repeal/defund/postpone the Affordable Care Act won them so much love.

    Meanwhile, some Americans oppose it as going too far, some as not going far enough, and some support it as is. Fortunately, those differences should be largely resolved by Americans being allowed to see how the law of the land actually works.
     
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    Doing the right thing is often an unpopular move. The GOP, being too much like the DNC, have long been on the side of preserving public image and "love" of the voting public. Funny that it still didn't win them the last election, though. They are losing the people in their inane efforts to please the people, as they have placed themselves in the doldrums between the Democratic left and America's current right, which is not pro-big government the way the GOP clearly is.
     
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    what are you talking about? The majority did pass it.
    If you can name any legislation that was enacted with only a minority of elected representatives voting for it, I would be most welcome of enlightenment.

    I guess your sources possess far more constitutional legal expertise than the USSC. What's funny is neither you nor I are constitutional lawyers and yet neither of us have a clue what legal arguments both pro and con were presented to the USSC, nor the command of the legal intricacies required to ajudicate such issues.

    Its one thing to denounce a controversial USSC ruling as ridiculous or foolish or stupid such as Citizens United, or Roe v Wade, but its quite another to challenge the decision as unconstitutional, especially by laymen such as you and I.
     
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    So we should just bow to the self-proclaimed experts in matters that affect our liberties? If some ******** lawyers can find a way to justify tyranny, then we just have to roll over and accept it? Bah.
     
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    Are you serious?

    Are you suggesting that the USSC who is actually MANDATED by the constitution you supposedly love so dearly to interpret that sacred document as it applies to legislation/law that congress and the president enact, consists of nothing more than self-proclaimed experts?

    You got things a tad bass ackwards there.
     
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    Doing the wrong thing is even more unpopular. Thus, the negative reaction to the TP stunt, and the consequent drop in the GOP's already dismal standing with Americans.
     
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    That's corruption. They're abusing constitutional powers to enact unconstitutional legislation.
     
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    "oooookkkkkkaayyyyyyy!" he said soothingly as he slowly moved away in a disciplined attempt to prevent another outburst of nonsense.
     
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    The Nazis came to power legally...
     
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    slooooowwwwwwwllllllllyyyyyy.
     
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    Gradually, yes. ;)
     

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