How much does the US pay the UK to hold Assange prisoner?

Americans have no shame, for the most part. Our common delusion is that we are some 'indispensable' nation.

 

As far as Britain's concerned, he failed to respond to bail. He should man up and face the music.

 

@Cerb.
Agreed. 3 years ago that was indeed the case.

And then they got bored. We all did.
Since then he has basically been free to leave the embassy unarrested.
I think he would have been grabbed at passport control if he attempted to leave via a major transportation hub.
But since the rest of us can travel abroad without using one, so can he,

 

That's pretty much what the judge just said.

I don't necessarily agree. I think he should just sod off some where he is more welcome.
I do think that if he surrendered himself to UK authorities and got extradited to Sweden, he would ultimately have ended up in jail in America.
But Sweden don't want him any more.

So the root issue for his arrest has been removed. And now all we have is judges trying to prove their self importance. No one can argue with the will of the justice system.
Millions of habitually speeding drivers would of course disagree.
Stupid laws get ignored every day.

 

Assange is evading British law in an embassy in Britain. You can forgive the British judge for insisting on the primacy of British law in Britain. The root issue for his arrest is his breaking of British law and ignoring the British court. That's not a small thing. As he is daily reminded.

 

How could he have left the embassy when only during the last few weeks around-the-clock surveillance of the building back and front was being carried out? Like I've said, he'd have been arrested, tried, undoubtedly convicted, and deported from Sweden to the US thence to 'disappear'.

 

Or put him in a burqua? Nobody would dare touch him then, even if they knew he was in it lest they be accused of Islamophobic discrimination! That's how bloody daft we've become.

 

The comments of the judge were spot on. Nice to see someone paying attention. He is a voluntary resident of the Embassy determined to escape the consequences of breaking the law & grandstand as a victim while he is at it.

 

Well at least while he's being imprisoned under false pretencies he isn't free to expose even more parasitic charlatans who are leaching their fat salaries from poor old Joe Public's taxes.

 

Bail for a trumped up charge that Sweden desperately tried to drop in 2012/13, but the British Crown Prosecution Service wouldn't let them (the tail wagging the dog).

my bolding
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...p-assange-extradition-in-2013-cps-emails-show

So, we have a case where the state authority reacting on an arrest warrant issued by another state dictates that state's actions when they decide to withdraw the warrant.

I might add that most of the email exchanges between the UK and Sweden in this affair were illegally destroyed - presumably in recognition of the possibility of a FOIA request and what publication would do to the story and the case.

 

Propaganda's a big thing with Assange. He's full of it, like his followers. He broke a British law evading justice. He needs to face up to his responsibilities.

 

Why should he face up to performing a public service, such as outting establishment charlatans and waste-of-space politicians? Unless you one of them you should be grateful for the information.

 

He broke the law while playing politics. He's the charlatan stirring up the paranoid punters.

 

Bad laws - and the one he broke is a good example - deserve to be broken, because those who made them, ie the politicians he exposed, often have something to hide, and that's precisely why they're so vindictive towards him - he courageously let the cat out of the bag? Hold that thought.

 

He breached bail conditions and sought political asylum in the Ecuadorian Embassy where asylum was granted.

The Swedish warrant that started the affair has now been rescinded. There should be no case to answer other than a minor misdemeanour offence that could be sorted by a fine or, at worst, serving community service. in almost any other case this is what would've happened, but this is an intensely political case with a malicious edge to it and typifying it any other way is dishonest or an example of naiveté, imo.

 

I'll go further, and assert that since the Swedish charge has been revealed as being a trumped-up one (or it wouldn't have been rescinded?), he is now entitled to compensation for his lost 5 and a half years - and it should NOT be paid by the British taxpayer, it should be paid to him by his persecutors from their personal wealth. Yeah, like that would ever happen!

 

The government should man up and admit (it has been recently leaked) that 4 years ago the Swedish prosecutor told the crown that the charges were dropped.

But it won't because it is doing the bidding of Washington DC.

 

Actually, no I can't.
The law is there to help people. People are not here to serve the law. It is a tool we use to help us.

Breaking the law is no biggie. Only doing harm to others is.

There is no "rule of law" only the rule of one man over another.

 

Thanks for shedding some more light on this case, that's great!
I agree with Cerberus that he is entitled to compensation for harassment and human rights violations. He needs a good Jewish lawyer who would work pro bono!

 

I think he already is very well compensated for that by his job.

 

From Jazz's link:




'Former Icelandic minister claims US sent 'planeload of FBI agents to frame Julian Assange' during mission to the country in 2011

• Ögmundur Jonasson said US authorities first told him in June 2011 that there was an 'imminent attack' on Iceland's government databases
• But when they arrived in August, Jonasson claims the FBI 'sought Iceland's cooperation to frame Assange and WikiLeaks'
• Jonasson said he then immediately kicked them out of Iceland
• The story was widely reported on in 2013, but Jonasson made no mention of the US trying to frame Assange
• It became known that the mission was part of a 'wide-ranging investigation' into Assange and WikiLeaks
• Jonnason said himself he made it clear he is on 'Assange and WikiLeaks' side'

By ANNETA KONSTANTINIDES FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 19:01 EST, 10 December 2016 | UPDATED: 02:17 EST, 11 Decembe...'



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tried-frame-Julian-Assange.html#ixzz57DS7Pm1o
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Thank you, dear Merven, for tidying up behind me. It's the habit of a lot of Users, not to bother opening up links and read the article.
Snowden, in that picture in the link, looks so very decent and honest.

He suffers as much as Assange and should also get our concern and attention.

The brain-washed American people haven't yet clued in, what their government has been doing to other nations and people. But, I do wonder, though, if they really believe this "Democracy BS".

 

Jonathan Cook has just written an article on the latest events which is well worth reading for the UK's abuse and misuse of the law to keep Assange de facto holed up in the Ecuadorian Embassy (arbitrary detention as the UN cal it)

https://www.mintpressnews.com/uks-hidden-hand-julian-assanges-detention/237598/

 

I never ever thought I'd say this but I'm so ashamed to be English. My beloved country has been hijacked by charlatan politicians, and the judiciary are either their accomplices or simply chinless fools. WTF's the point of the queen when she allows this to be so?

 

I don't think it has ever been any different to be honest, Cerberus. It's just a lot more blatant than previously; a consequence of the fact that more and more people are seeing that the king really isn't wearing any clothes, imo. Once that illusion begins to evaporate in numbers there is no other option for the state but to remove the velvet gloves and replace by the naked force and brutality that was always present but eclipsed.

It spells the loss of control...