How Not to React when Your Son Tells You that He's Gay

It has nothing to do with morality. That's what you don't understand. This is why you don't get what is happening right now. That's why I asked you those questions. You think that being gay is a choice. It's not. I know, because I am. It is no more a choice than my being white.

So there is nothing to talk about anymore.

 

It has everything to do with morality.

Othwerwise you wouldn't find it repulsive over parents disowning their children.

You want to force them to accept their children BECAUSE you feel it is the right thing to do.

Doing the right thing is the basics of morality.

And that's what all zealots do, they impose their morality on to other people.

 

I find it repulsive that parents would disown their own child for something that is not their fault. Yes, I do.

Should it be OK for parents to throw their kids out because they are left-handed too? Just what else do you think parents should be able to kick their minor children out of the house for?

 

I find it repulsive too.

BUT.

Imposition of morality is what causes atrocities.

I don't think it's okay, but for me it's even worse to create legislation that would force them to keep their kids.

What you don't seem to understand is I hate huge governments that have all kinds of power to intrude upon your life and tell you what you can and can not do. I don't understand why you're so comfortable with that. With huge governments that regulate EVERYTHING there is no freedom. None at all. Zip. Nana. ix nay on the eddom fray.

I also believe in the adults right to choose. And that also has a dark side to it, which you helped to demonstrate. Sometimes though, you have to take the good with the bad. At least that's what liberals have always told me.

Other than that, I don't have any kind of real solution to address this problem other than what I've already stated i'd like to.

And I really would do that if I was a multi millionaire. Because despite what harsh opinions I may have, I also believe in helping people to become self supporting able individuals that can be a productive member of this society. And in order to do that I am capable of putting my own hard opinions and prejudices aside because for me it is also about morality and doing the right thing.

And to me a successful society is one in which people respect and look out for each other and learn to get over their petty differences and not to rely on the government.

And a big part of my hostility towards big government is because it is government that waged war on my people over land and it's resources and why most of us are on reservations today.

And you want to know what the big irony is? You guys are turning all of America into one big huge reservation with draconian laws that over regulate everything and stagnate success and restrict our freedoms and rights under the constitution.

And see, this is why I loath to discuss this subject.

No matter how tactful no matter how factual, the only thing you guys do is get angry at me and start attacking me.

So, I can only conclude you don't really want to discuss this and you don't want to truly resolve this. You just want to feel important by yelling and screaming at someone.

Edit:

Those other three articles are about what's happening here in America.

 

Here is what it comes down to:

You think gay people choose to be gay. Therefore you think it's a moral issue.

Fact, and I know this from my own life- we do not choose to be gay. I did not choose. Therefore it is not a moral issue, it is simply a fact of life, like I have green eyes.

Therefore, there is no moral judgement to be made here. This does not involve morality. Unless you think that disowning a kid for having green eyes is a moral decision.

And hey, maybe you do. You brought up white people before as the main factor in discrimination. Since I'm a white guy, none of that makes sense.

 

Actually I have known one girl who told me she chose to be gay because she hated men.

That was a long number of years ago.

So, essentially put, it's a generalization to say it is not a choice for all gay men, and it is ALSO a generalization to say all gay men choose to be that way.

And is not a generalization to make a claim of "If something is true for me then it must be true for everybody like me"? And isn't that the kind of thing you guys hate hate hate hate HATE conservatives for?

I really see no difference there. It's the same behavior regardless of the justification/motivation/explanation behind it.

I say it should be left up to the individual to define themselves and how they want to live their life.

You don't seem to want to give people that kind of a chance. And that's a difference between you and me.

 

Then why do you think any of that is a rational reason for discrimination? Why?

Signing off for tonight, I have work tomorrow

 

Actually I am not generalizing, it is indeed, you.

How is leave it up to the individual to define their own lives a generalization?

 

if one expects to maintain the lifestyle provided by mommy and daddy then you're probably correct.

But, what reasonable person actually thinks that moving out is easy? What person doesn't consider a roommate(s) to defray costs?

Sorry, if you want to demand being treated like an adult at 20 then act like one and Danny-boy, man up.

 

that is a complete fabrication and an utter pantload

I can not wake up tomorrow and be white

I sure as heck can wake up and decide to receive penis.

Choosing the homosexual life is not even close to skin color

 

again you seem to miss the whole point because you are obsessed with gay sex.

The bottom line is simple.

If you support the parents in this video you are a horrible human being. Plain and simple.
If you think being gay (being attracted emotionally and sexually to the same sex) is a choice you are ignorant.
If you you are not religious and yet use the Bible (badly by the way) to attack gay people you are a hypocrite.

 

I don't support their hitting the kid who baited them and recorded it because that was the plan all along.


but them saying it's a choice, and the gay guy saying it's not..... I absolutely support them.


I, for one, don't use the Bible in my argument against gay marraige any more than I use it in my argument against polygomy or incest marraige.

 

Ms Mechanic, you seem to once again miss the facts

I cannot wake up tomorrow and become white

I can wake up tomorrow, go out and find a guy to give me a hot beef injection

 

Why do you want to

 

Does that make you homosexual in that you have a predisposition to liking that sort of thing?

 

I'm not a thief unless I steal
I'm not drunk unless I drink heavily

If I choose to engage in gay sex then guess what............................

 

How? because it is not up to most of us to decide. That's how. Bisexuals may get to choose. Gay people do not.

 

No, the difference between you and me is that you think children are disposable. That's disgusting. And that girl you knew? Bisexual.

I cannot go out and sleep with a woman. The equipment won't work. Therefore, not my choice.

 

Sounds like sec has a not-so-secret fantasy.

 

Homosexuality is a proposition to act. If you don't have the predisposition are you really homosexual?

 

If I cut somebody open does that make me a surgeon? If I eat a vegetable does that make me a vegetarian? if I get drunk does that make me an alcoholic? If I say oy vey does that make me Jewish?

 

These total losers certainly handled this poorly.
Obviously there is a back-story that we are not seeing, in regard to Facebook or whatever, but there is no reason to belittle him like that.

He's better off without them.

While I'm quite sure God doesn't want people like this using His name in their defense... I have to ask... What science?
There is no proof that people are born gay, or choose gay.
So yes, faith can be stronger than science... I totally accept that.
But that's separate from how they handled this situation.

Yes, a parent should put their children first. These are poor examples for "parents".

Let's hope.

 

now you get it!!!!!!!

welcome to common sense

If I'm a male and do not accept penis nor deliver penis to another male; then guess what.........................

 

"sucking a dick is not like icecream... it's not something you can just try and say 'hmmm, I don't like it', sucking a dick is something that would change your life"

I can't think of who said that... it was a comedian though.



"I know I'm not gay, I tried sucking a dick in college and hated it" - Daniel Tosh

 

they found a gay gene? I was unaware.... please to be linking that revalation on here so we may all change our minds on the subject.


.... unless of course, you are simply claiming it's not a choice with absolutely no proof whatsoever to justifty your own lifestyle choice.