How the Trump administration failed to protect America, a chronicle of missed opportunities, denials

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  1. Paul7

    Paul7 Well-Known Member

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    Like Biden, who opposed the China travel restrictions that Fauci said bought us a lot of time?

    Your hypocrisy is noted.
     
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    Bunk, the stock market began rising the day Trump was elected before he was in office, after being flat for about a year, in anticipation of a boom economy from Trump's tax cuts and deregulation. That happened.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Question has a premise that fails to factor in context, which was, that when Trump did the ban, the virus was already in America, so the ban is tantamount to shutting the barn door after the horse escaped. Plus 40k persons flew from China to US after the ban. Fauci is walking a tightrope between pleasing Trump, and not totally comprising himself. Therefore, we must take what he says in that light.
    Your failure to know what 'hypocrisy' means is noted.
     
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  4. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Did you even spot this part of the article below?
     
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    What's he going to run on? The great job he did keeping deaths a couple hundred below 200 thousand?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    How could he have got it lower?
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Exactly! There's no way that the death could have been reduced by Trump. Como on the other hand - who put COVID patients back into nursing homes? I think so.
     
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  8. nopartisanbull

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    Trump’s mouth opened up several cans of worms; 3 examples out of 1,000;

    1. The risk of a pandemic remains low, Period! Thus, there was no need to scale down the risk to near zero, however, due to his narcissistic personality, he “had to”.

    2. Trump; “According to the John Hopkin’s study, we are the most prepared nation to handle a pandemic”. Two weeks later, “I inherited a terrible system”. Again, he spoke too much.

    3. Trump; “I felt it was a pandemic long before it was declared a pandemic”. Another unwise statement/can of worms. Long before means; Trump had several months to prepare for a pandemic, and said unwise statement contradicted his denials and dismissals.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Meanwhile, through all of February, Trump was still holding massive rallies and went golfing like crazy, just to show how serious he was about a pandemic that he of course did not understand, not even one little bit.

    The Democrats impeached him because he broke the law. And a Republican broke ranks in the Senate to convict him, a Republican who was (*gasp*) once your party's nominee for president, just to note.

    Winners take action. Losers blame everybody under the sun and throw people shiny objects to deflect. But now matter how you slice it, this is one huge piece of ****, right here, and every single person who voted for the *********ker owns this.
     
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    Example 4 out of 1,000

    Trump; “Everybody who wants a test, can get a test”. Sounds like; “If you like your policy, you can keep it”

    Trumper’s response; “Trump was told”

    Well, in an effort to defend POTUS, same excuse Democrats were chanting.....One of his staff told him

    Yeah, right!
     
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    Tge stick market was not "flat" for that year, but of course the billionaires and the businesses were waiting to see if the Republicans would to see if tgey would once more cut the already cut taxes from Bush to even more record lows from Republicans who had already had sabotaged the economy from the insane limits of investment to grow the economy reasonably, although Obam and the Democrats made it grow and prosper and manager deficits anyway despite the Republicans' attempts to destroy the economy.

    Then when Trum and Republicans took over, INSANE deficits, INSANE debts, big corporations did little to raise raise workers' wages or build new factories, but oh boy oh boy, could the Republicans corporations buy back stock, and did almost NOTHING to get new investment in the USA, and Trump has wasted a trillion dollars on making Americans pay tariffs to empty our wallets while our corations still made little new actual investment IN AMERICA!

    An exampme right now is after 4 months, the Trump administration still cannot make enough SINGLE domestic supply of N95 masks for ALL Americans to buy!

    But right now, I can buy a hundred Chinese versions of KN95 masks for $10!

    What a MASSIVE FAIL! Trump is a FAILURE, the REPUBLICANS are a FAILURE, and 10s of thousands of American health care workers and Americans are paying that price NOW.
     
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    They would. They have already in the past. His name is Obama. When the Ebola virus struck the world in 2014, all of 11 cases reached American shores and only 2 people died.

    So, let's see: 11 Ebola cases (2 that were contracted on American soil, 4 that were diagnosed here but contracted elsewhere and 7 cases evacuated to the US from other countries) and 2 deaths under Obama (D) and currently, 1,837,170 C19 cases and 106,195 deaths under Trump (R).

    Better luck to you next time, nööööö
     
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    More revisionism.
     
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    If he didn't take it seriously, then how do you explain why he banned travel from China? And he called the Democrats' politicisation of the virus a hoax!

    Wow, that's pretty insane! When exactly did he provide that reasoning? I don't expect a reply to this! :roflol:

    Who was saying that was necessary? Were even the Dems? Anyway, didn't the private sector voluntarily start producing?

    I'm sure that you'll be able to provide a source to support your claim! I don't expect a reply to this! :roflol:

    Actually no, the US is currently 11th according to Worldometers. I'm actually STUNNED beyond belief that you didn't refer to DEATHS too, saying that the US is also leading the world in deaths! I would've DESTROYED that idea too! :roflol:

    Loyalty? I'm not even American! I don't give a CRAP about Trump! :roflol:
     
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    And Biden held a rally LATER than Trump's last one! I guess you must have missed that! :roflol:

    Why exactly would a non-expert know anything about pandemics?

    Yet no crime appeared in the articles of impeachment! (Unlike Clinton's impeachment) Were you actually under the impression that there was? :roflol:

    Yes, and he failed SPECTACULARLY! :roflol:
     
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  16. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Uh, take another look at THAT sentence,

    See, PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONS excludes THIS administration, and who is this administration? Yes, it's the Trump administration.

    And, did you notice the subtitle?

     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    He wasn't impeached for breaking the law, he was impeached for 'abuse of power'.
     
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    Previous administrations (and obviously this one too) sought AND FAILED to prepare the country for just such an outbreak.
     
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    Why are you telling ME that? Tell that to @Statistikhengst.
     
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    Example # 5 out of 1,000

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    Remarks By President
    Issued on April 28, 2020

    Question; Mr. President, today, the U.S. hit a grim milestone of 1 million cases of the Coronavirus. Back in February, you predicted that the number of cases would go down to zero. How did we get from your prediction of zero to 1 million?

    President; Well, it will go down to zero, ultimately. And you have to understand, when it comes to cases, we do much more testing than anybody else. So, we could go to some of these countries, you know as an example, China. If you test, you’re going to show many more cases, so we’re testing. So, we’re doing more testing than any other country, by far.

    —————

    NOTE; “If you test, you’re going to show many more cases”

    Bingo!

    Rationale; Back in February, Trump predicted 5 cases would go down to zero, then 15 cases would go down to zero. He also stated “We have very few people with it, and the people that have it are getting better......”We have contained this”.

    AGAIN... “If you test, you’re going to show more cases”. Trump said

    AND back in February, his health officials knew that.
     
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    No. FACTS.

    Trump golfed 12 times on: 2020-01-001, 2020-01-002, 2020-01-004, 2020-01-005, 2020-01-018, 2020-01-019, 2020-02-001, 2020-02-002, 2020-02-015, 2020-02-019, 2020-03-007, 2020-03-008

    He held 11 campaign rallies: on 2020-01-003 (Miami), 2020-01-009 (Toledo), 2020-01-014 (Milwaukee), 2020-01-028 (Wildwood), 2020-01-030 (Des Moines), 2020-02-010 (Manchester), 2020-02-019 (Phoenix), 2020-02-020 (Colorado Springs), 2020-02-021 (Las Vegas), 2020-02-028 (North Charleston, where he called C19 a "Democrat hoax"), 2020-03-002 (Charlotte, where he compared C19 to the common flu).

    Also, he held a Superbowl party on the first weekend in February after knowing that the virus was spreading.

    So, that's at least 25 days where he wasn't concerning himself with C19.

    FACTS.

    You can also read all about it in the liberal rag BUSINESS INSIDER:

    https://www.businessinsider.com/her...avirus-was-rapidly-spreading-2020-4?r=DE&IR=T
     
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    Abuse of power IS breaking the law.
     
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    I'm telling YOU that because your reply to him (her? ) was thus:
    which seemed to imply there was no reason for impeachment, and there was. Plus the fact that you
    didn't tell that to @Statistikhengst and you should have.
     
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    The first death was on Feb6th. The second was in 2/17. And that’s what we know now. At the time the first death wasn’t even confined until 2/29.

    WTF did you expect Trump to do in February? Shut the whole country down over less than a literal handful of deaths? Are you INSANE?? Name a medical professional that was recommending we should be in a full quarantine back in early February? NOT saying what we should have done. Show a quote from the CDC, the WHO and other scientists that recommended to Trump we should shut down and quote Trump disregarding that advice. Go!!

    Since you’re so concerned over facts. There ya go. Discuss the facts.
     
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    Why did Biden and other Democrats oppose it? The WaPo called it an overreaction. Those 40K people were US citizens, did you want them to not come home?

    Bunk, Fauci has denied that ridiculous theory, it is just another LW lie like the Russia Hoax.

    Pot, meet kettle.
     

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