How To Finally Resolve the Abortion Debate

Abortion

 

You didn't really tell me anything. You went on with your drivel and making vague examples and accusations.

And yes, I am aware of the Hyde Amendment. Of which I am in favor of.

Being pro-choice does not mean pro-pay-for-it, as in pay for someone else's abortion. Of which I have stated twice now. She is to pay for it herself.

I don't care if she wants an abortion. I don't care if she doesn't want one. It's called being pro-choice.

You bring in random stuff that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Is being on-topic too hard for you because you can't argue a basic standpoint?

Wanting more information than what your source gives make you resort to petty insults? Don't get me wrong, I have been looking for a good source on abortion statistics, and this is a good one. But it's not going deep enough.

Is having the opinion that a woman ought to pay for her own abortion such a problem for you?

 

You can't get pregnant if you don't have sex. Unless we are talking artificial insemination.

 

You didn't seem to be aware of it, you went on and on and on about how you didn't want to pay for abortion.


WHY would you do that IF you were aware of the Hyde Amendment ?????

Well, it would if logic was used. If one accepts the premise of Pro-Choice as abortion being legal then why be against covering abortions as other medical procedures are covered?


Are you this adamant about people paying for their own heart surgery??

Not if she has health insurance that should cover it.

Uh, YOU were the one who brought in unrelated blather like :


""Key word: Planning. If both parents end up without a job(somehow miraculously at the same time) they will have to get new ones. Assessing your situation and being able to adapt accordingly is necessary if you want a healthy household for your kid to live in, if she decide to give birth.

However, to me abortion is an optional thing that you should have available to you if you feel you can't have a child and support him/her properly, but you have to pay for that abortion yourself. Worst case scenario can file an application to the government for covering the costs.

An abortion doesn't cost that much anyway, and you should already have money saved up for spontaneous stuff like this happening. If you don't you've failed even some of the most basic economic planning, and you shouldn't be messing around much in the bedroom in the first place."""

 

Someone in a coma has significant brain function.

 

1) correct
2) both

 

And how do you address the issues of:

Medical tourism
Abortion pills
Black market abortions

 

You mean people going to other countries for medical procedures? Is there a problem with that?

What about them?

 

At what point in the pregnancy are you saying that a living human has been created?

 

So then wouldn't you say that getting pregnant is NOT beyond every woman's control?

 

So how do you explain you saying this?:

 

So then why did you say that "getting pregnant or not getting pregnant IS beyond all woman's control?"

 

It is the killing of another human. You can call it a homicide if you like. But it's a great one

 

Which post are you talking about? I didn't give any answer to when I think that a fetus is human.

I'm asking you what YOU think. Do YOU think that a fetus is human from day 1 of pregnancy? If not, after what point do YOU think?

 

Okay. So not for abortion, but for partial miscarriage. What would be the problem here?

Not sure what you mean. "retained products of conception?"

 

In Vegas Giants' post that you 'liked' and also responded to, he responded to my question, "the homicide of a fetus is beautiful?", with "Yes it is a beautiful thing." Here is his post: http://politicalforum.com/index.php...bortion-debate.538967/page-60#post-1069868592

 

When did I mention late term abortions? I'm asking you if you think that NSW (and others) should adopt the same abortion laws as Victoria and Qld.

 

We are talking about when someone attacks a woman and KILLS the fetus! THIS is what we are debating is homicide or not. NOT abortion! You haven't been following.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Uh, duh, you actually have to ask that question? Why?

Being raped doesn't mean a woman has control over getting pregnant, she either gets pregnant or doesn't.

It is...did you think women can will themselves pregnant? Wish to be pregnant and they become pregnant??

No, a woman could have sex a thousand times , want/wish/demand she get pregnant and she still may not...

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Why do you keep asking questions that have been answered....one was even answered by YOU!

Good grief! I've answered that several times....what's the problem? Short term memory loss?


Last time:

A human fetus is human...DUHHHHHHHH, it can't be anything else...

 

Sure, but if she doesn't have sex AT ALL, that is how to have COMPLETE control over not getting pregnant?
There is no control over GETTING pregnant, but there IS control over NOT getting pregnant. Other than rape.

 

Not sure what you mean by medical tourism - need more specifics.

The abortion pill is a great invention. The sooner a woman decides to stop the process by which a human might be created the better. What I find irritating is waiting until after a human is created to abort.

Black Market abortions are just one of the negative consequences of a Gov't ban's on abortion.

 

sentience / significant brain function - cognitive ability - the ability to feel pain.

 

Was there a point in there somewhere...besides you stating the bloody obvious??? Which has no meaning related to anything that I can see...

Gee, you discovered if women don't have sex they won't get pregnant !!! WOWSER! Good on YOU!!! Did you study long?


Now, again, SO WHAT ?


BTW, did you figure out yet that a human fetus is human and not canine or a vegetable?

You didn't respond to :"""Last time:

A human fetus is human...DUHHHHHHHH, it can't be anything else..."""""

 

And if a man does not wish to get her pregnant, he can also not have sex. I recommend this course for you and have feeling it wont be a problem to achieve.