This isn't a thread to bash each other over the head with your opinions of their ideas. I want this to be a thread where people get their ideas out. I'm talking about school specific ideas and not general gun control or 2nd Amendment support. My idea: Let's train and arm volunteer teachers. Many of these teachers are prior military or have already sought training in the use of firearms. They know the children and also have self protection as a motive. They are background checked and educated and have proven that they are responsible adults or they wouldn't be working as a teacher. I'm not just talking about firearms training. I'm talking about training them to work with the police in the event of a school shooting. Many schools have School Resource Officers and many others have police nearby to respond in a couple of minutes. They can train together in the Summers and weekends in their school with simulated ammo and various scenarios. They can also train frequently at the range with the police department to ensure continued proficiency. Let's give them communication. In Texas, our armed teachers are called School Marshalls, so that's what I'll call them. School Marshalls and School Resource Officers (or responding police) can put an App on their phone. Anybody on the team can activate the app, which immediately sets off an alarm in the school, sends all video and audio from the phone to a 911 dispatch center and ties them together with 911 dispatch and sends the schools video feeds to 911 dispatch so that a designated leader can coordinate the response. The School Marshalls can take up assigned positions to protect the entrance to their wing or section of the school unless the shooter is in their section. They can limit the shooter's movement with a covered position set up to protect the entrance to their area. The SROs or responding police can use input from the School Marshalls and leader at 911/dispatch to hunt down and respond to the shooter.
No more schools only way to 100% stop them. Otherwise, I think when there is a will, they will find a way.
Don’t have to speculate - Australia did it In fact most of the rest of the world did it Soooooo the question becomes not what other countries are doing right but what is America doing wrong
Ending all public school and going to private education would end the problem for the general public. Security would then be a private matter.
Private schools can protect their kids how they like. If they fail, they will go out of business and so they are motivated to protect their interests by protecting the kids. It's a lot harder to shut down public schools without an alternative. School choice has a lot of merits.
But it would not stop school shootings - your weird plan in the OP would not stop school shootings and has a high probability of causing even more school shootings
As I said - nearly every other country on the planet HAS solved it https://www.statista.com/chart/13998/school-shootings-per-country-2009/ NIGERIA has fewer school shootings than the USA
I'm going to try and to some extent respect your request that rather than critique your idea, I offer some of my own. Do Nothing. As horrific as these school shootings are, there is no solution to them, imo, short of banning guns all but completely: starting not with rifles, not with ARs, but with handguns. We have other more deadly problems than homicides by firearms and our lack of control over the health care industry ought to be a much less controversial place to make improvements. Insulin for example ought to be dirt simple for folks to agree should be legislatively made available to any of the 340 million inhabitants of the US that need it. *** Simply secure the buildings. Certainly if building a wall will keep out the Southern Neighbors then locks on doors will keep out shooters. *** Put strip clubs next to schools and offer freebies to disturbed young incels that maybe just need to get laid. *** Guitar lessons! Support live music! I've seen a theory that this was once upon a time the place where all the angry young men turned to release their frustrations. *** Ban shooter games! Everyone knows this the true cause of the world wide epidemic of school shootings. *** Censor that dirty rap music! It's Dem Thug Life Black Men Be Causing All Dis Hear Ruckus. *** Legalize It! Ah, man, put this one together with the strip club idea and you got winner winner chicken dinner. STOP Your proposal would not have worked in my high school - wouldn't have even been a possible consideration. Mrs. Brown and Mr. Smith, my English and Algebra teachers simply didn't approach anything near the standard of providing additional service by being armed security "volunteers". Flipping through my senior yearbook I generously spot maybe 7/60 teachers plus a couple of admins that might qualify. If little deranged young Mr. Dipshit carries a 15 round 9mm into a classroom and decides to blow people away then odds favor he'll pick one of the 53 classrooms without an armed teacher. And your suggestion seems to miss how much work these folks put into just being a teacher, almost to the point of cheering on how great it would be to have a paramilitary trained force that also teaches our kids, almost as an afterthought the way I read your post. Sorry, but no thanks. We're already well too militarized of a nation. Take it from Ike if you like: don't take my word for it.
AA is successful at treating addiction, so perhaps they have an idea: 1. Admit the US has a violence problem. Consider starting 50% fewer wars from now on, maybe.
While you are technically correct, can't say that I would go along with it anymore than I would go along with banning video games. Shootings are just the new normal.
It wasn't my idea, but it has some merit. Throwing our federal tax dollars at the problem are a misuse of our money. The tax dollars come with woke hoops to jump through and strings to control us. Curriculums need to be controlled more closely to the school system and parents. Every state has a Department of Education. The federal one is redundant. Anything the feds touch is ran poorly and most are a violation of the 10th Amendment.
One step would be to try to prioritize schools by risk level. There are different areas, and some have a much lower probability of something bad happening than others. It doesn't make sense to be trying to implement solutions in all schools equally. I also do not think this thread belongs in the Law & Justice section of this forum.
You are the only first responder guaranteed to be there when you need him. Plan accordingly. This necessitates people having the means necessary to deal with the threats they are likely to face - in this case, people who work at the school facing someone who wants to shoot up said school. Anything less and you will only get people killed.
There you go again, presenting a post-hoc fallacy as a meaningful response. I will ask you, yet again, to demonstrate the necessary relationship between the gun laws in the counties you mention and their lower rates of gun-related violence. You will, again, fail to do so.
Harden the campuses and give faculty the option to carry a weapon. Lock all doors, interior and exterior. Place surveillance cameras covering every square inch of the campus. Install bullet resistant doors and windows. Armor up certain walls within the building. Hire highly trained and motivated armed security personnel who are incognito to patrol and observe the campus, creating 360° security. There should be at least three layers of physical security that an attacker would have to breach before finding himself in a position to fire the first round. Teacher who choose to should be allowed to carry and those teachers should receive a high degree of high quality training in marksmanship and tactics. They should be required to fire no less than 100 practice rounds a month. An active shooter reaction plan should be created and practiced by the faculty and the security team at least once a month.
We have been trying the "thoughts, prayers and more guns" approach for decades and the its just getting worse. Can we try something different?
Sure - so long as "something" does not consist of unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding. Any suggestions?
Let's lock some doors. It's been discovered that leaving doors unlocked at Robb Elementary in Uvalde Texas was rampant. None of the school shooters have gained access to the students because of their audacity, skill and warrior spirit. They did so because there was no kind of security to stop them.
Yes, I have suggestions and I have shared them on a dozen other threads. Why do we need to open a new thread every day?
You asked a question.. I gave an answer. if you did not want to want to discuss your version of 'something different" you should not have bothered. If you have a suggestion which not does not consist of unnecessary and ineffective restrictions on the exercise of the right to keep and bear arms by the law abiding, let us know.
In this instance I would allign with the romans. I would capture one, and...in a public square where those who want to watch can watch...feed him to a ****ing lion. I'd make a violent enough example that it would hopefully deter all would be shooters in the future. Dont **** with children.
