Hyphenated Americans should get half a vote

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    No. Same reasons as I gave before. You don't punish someone for asserting their Rights.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Fully committing to being an American means OPPOSING all racist attempts to SUPPRESS Minority Votes.
     
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    I'd love to see the overlap between people who get triggered by 'hyphenated Americans' and jump up and down about 'division', and people who either display Confederate flags or think it is perfectly fine to wave them around or have them displayed on government property. Anyone care to bet on how big that overlap is?

    My bet is that somehow displaying the symbols of people who chose to betray America, tear it apart and kill hundreds of thousands of loyal Americans isn't going to fall under 'divisive', while acknowledging a nation or ethnicity of origin is.

    How about people who display Confederate symbols or supports the retention of monuments glorifying traitors who tried to destroy America get 0% votes? Clearly they don't support the concept of a unified America, so why let them vote in one?
     
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  4. Josephwalker

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    I don't view it as punishment, I view it as an equitable distribution of your right to vote. If your allegiance is not 100% to America you don't get 100% of your vote.
     
  5. Kal'Stang

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    Reality doesn't care how you view something.
     
  6. Josephwalker

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    I'll explain the difference to you.
    Post civil war Lincoln wanted to reunite the country so he implemented a plan of letting the south honor it's flag and fallen heroes. What he didn't want was to further the divide by coming in like a conquering army and subjugating the the confederate states. He chose to welcome them back into the union instead in an attempt to defuse tensions.
    Today there are still people in the south proud of their ancestors who fought bravely for the cause and in the spirit of Lincoln we should still allow them to do so.
    Having said that I can understand why the confederate flag and confederate statues would rub blacks the wrong way but we can't go around changing everything that offends any group or we won't have any statues, any flags, any holidays.......
     
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    Josephwalker Banned

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    Nor does it care how you view it.
     
  8. Kal'Stang

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    Its a good thing that I see reality and not what I wish it to be. ;)
     
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    I mentioned this earlier in this conversation. Labels are usually applied by OTHER people versus the person, themselves. I have never heard any minority refer to themselves using a hyphen unless asked a direct question (ie. on documents).
     
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    Well said and true!!! good post!

    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    Paying full taxes is totally committed.

    So why aren't you attacking tax cheats and claiming THEY are only half American, not true committed Americans...???
     
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    Paying full taxes is not up to you, it's the law and tax cheats go to jail. You can't vote from jail.
    Next question.:)
     
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    you didn't answer my question (as usual)

    FoxHastings said:
    Paying full taxes is totally committed.

    So why aren't you attacking tax cheats and claiming THEY are only half American, not true committed Americans...???

    And, yes, paying full taxes IS up to the taxpayer...how odd to think it isn't..

    And all tax cheats don't go to jail....and the cheating comes BEFORE jail....

     
  15. Josephwalker

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    Not the subject of this thread.
    Next question.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    you didn't answer my question (as usual)

    FoxHastings said:
    Paying full taxes is totally committed.

    So why aren't you attacking tax cheats and claiming THEY are only half American, not true committed Americans...???

    And, yes, paying full taxes IS up to the taxpayer...how odd to think it isn't..

    And all tax cheats don't go to jail....and the cheating comes BEFORE jail....






    LOL! Great dodge!!!:roflol::roflol:
     
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    Why isn't it? You are discussing those not "fully committed" to America. What better way to show one's allegiance than to pay one's taxes?
     
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    Start a thread on that. I'll participate.
    This threads about hyphenated Americans and your attempt to derail it is rejected.
     
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    You have a pattern of ignoring all the comments that prove your premise is ridiculous. I choose not to bother. Skirting - noted.
     
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    :) So if a person does not refer to themselves as a hyphenated American you feel they are committed Americans even if they cheat on their taxes?
     
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    And not paying taxes is relevant in the discussion of hyphenated Americans how?
     
  22. Josephwalker

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    Feel free to show where I said that.:)
     
  23. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    :) So if a person does not refer to themselves as a hyphenated American you feel they are committed Americans even if they cheat on their taxes?



    Feel free to show where I said you said it. :)

    I asked a question.....couldn't you answer it?
     
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  24. Josephwalker

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    Scroll. It was answered.
     
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    So what part of "American Citizen" aren't you getting here? American Citizens are due the same rights and privileges under
    the Constitution no matter how they self-identify. End of story. Period.

    Why do you hate the Constitution?
     
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