If women were so great..

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  1. Yant0s

    Yant0s Active Member

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    Women are doing nothing really significant in great numbers.
     
  2. Yant0s

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    Well mankind never suffered this problem. Mabye thats why these monkey's never evolved.

    Goes to show without men in charge we would still be **** throwing monkeys.

    Men build civilisation women jusr enjoy it.
     
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  3. Gwendoline

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    Listen, you wouldn't even be here if your mother hadn't pushed you out.

    Imagine that. Imagine if your mother knew back then that you'd be one day grandstanding and crowing how great men are and how lowly women are - she might have told you to go fend for yourself when you were born. (!)

    Get over yourself.

    Back then women were subjugated and bullied and domineered over by men. Women were kept out of industry by men. Women writers even had to go by male names just to get published!!

    Women died in childbirth a lot. Raised big families. Wanting to go into industry but forced to be at home solely to raise children.

    Let's face it, a lot of anti-feminists are just really really annoyed that women aren't subjugated and stood over and treated badly like they were in those godawful old days.

    Get over yourself.
     
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    See you cant do it can you..... women are not repressed anymore and you cant even give me one example....

    Well apart from giving birth to men (that contribution has already been mentioned btw).

    Also you would not bw here if your dad never blew his load inside your mother. So thats kinda an equal contribution anyways.
     
  5. The Scotsman

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    nah...they just talk more and beat us into submission through lack of available oxygen...I prefer the old days....

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    Nah, not equal, your mother carried you for 9 months and chose to let you out. Fool that she was.

    Look, I'm bored. So I'll leave you anti-feminists to your very serious work of complaining about women.

    Raving on about the things you build... but can you 'build' a baby in your womb and give birth to it? Imagine how men like you would crow if you were giving birth a new life instead of women doing it. You'd probably consider yourself a GOD then, wouldn't you?!

    Happy complaining. Ta-ta.
     
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  7. Yant0s

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    Haha so you cant answer me and your only response is saying women are good for carrying babies.

    And you know what i agree with you women are built for having babies and raising children.
     
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    The OP was crippled from its birth.

    I explained clearly what the issue is, and the women-haters ignore it.

    They won't when women become their bosses of them and their sons.
     
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    Nah, more women are going to college than men; more women moving into upper management and CEO positions, and they are doing very well; more women are moving up in politics, from city hall to Washington DC.

    Be happy for the era in which you lived.
     
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    Your abject failure to comprehend the parallels in behavior revealed through that scientific study is NOT the problem of anyone BUT yourself.

    If women did nothing but bear children while being oppressed by aggressive men there would have been no evolution.

    Civilization only came about because women REFUSED to be oppressed and were prepared to do more than just fling feces, screech and aggressively fight with one another.

    You would not be wearing clothes if it were not for women. You would not have preserved food to eat if it were not for women. You would not have an education if it were not for women.

    Yes, it was women who passed on knowledge to their children of how to preserve food and make clothing, not men. Which means that it was women who came up with language as a means of communicating.

    It might have been a man who figured out how make a fire but it was a woman who figured out how to use it to cook with and preserve food.

    It doesn't matter how much you want to deny all of these things but when you look around it is STILL men who are aggressive and cause conflicts and killings and wars while it is ALWAYS women who are the backbone of civilization who ensure that their children and fed, clothed and educated.
     
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    Amen and well said. They're so busy complaining and griping about women and crowing about themselves here - that they never mention the utter tragedy and inhumanity of the murders and rapes that their gender commits against women and men. The statistics are staggering and heartbreaking.
     
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    It is a testament to the stamina and fortitude of women that civilization still exists despite all of men's attempts at destroying it.

    The scientific study seems dry and detached but it clearly demonstrated that the lives of the males in the troop where significantly better when the females took over and stopped the aggression.

    These same whining men have no idea just how miserable their own lives would be if we had not evolved to make these murders and rapes illegal in our society. The terms nasty, short and brutish would apply to all of them.

    That we still have not evolved to the point where these crimes no longer occur is tragic. Aggression is the antithesis of civilization and it is noteworthy that all the great aspects of civilization occurred during periods of peace and prosperity while all of the worst occur during wars.
     
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    errmmm..forgive me but that sounds just the same as reinforcement of the gender stereotype? The little woman stays at home and nurtures the weak whilst the men go out and protect those that are put in harms way. I would imagine that the likes of Boudicca, Joan or Arc and Margret Thatcher to name but a few would not agree with your thoughts on the basis that in times of adversity they stood up for what they thought was wrong and actively engaged in conflict in order to rectify wrongs against their peoples - Boudicca led the Iceni against the might of the Roman empire. I would imagine that they would think such a mantra rather disingenuous and patronising! The basis of this argument seems to be rather simplistic; that "women are not men" and that hardly advances the cause of women as a whole! If that's the narrative then the answer is for women to grow a pair and fight for their place in the world rather than expect it to handed to them on a platter and accept the male largesse!!
     
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    Worth noting that when women do go to war they usually win!

    However you are missing the point entirely.

    Civilization means a better life for EVERYONE as opposed to those just at the top of the heap.

    Civilization makes it POSSIBLE for everyone to raise a family ensuring that they are all fed, clothed and educated.

    There are a great many men who understand the benefits that they derive from civilization and do NOT whine like the OP is doing.

    We have arrived at yet another turning point in the evolution of our civilization just as we did when it decided to get rid of a tyrannical monarchy and govern ourselves, free slaves from oppression, extend voting rights to women and then to uphold equal rights for blacks.

    The current turning point is the equality of women with men.

    Yes, this puts a segment of the male population at a disadvantage in a CIVILIZED society because their being male is no longer an automatic advantage. They are now having to compete on the basis of critical thinking and communication skills. They lack these skills and are complaining that this puts them at a disadvantage.

    When women were at a disadvantage because they were NOT male they didn't whine like the men are doing. Instead they just worked twice as hard to compete.

    Therein lies the stark difference!

    Women are the BACKBONE of civilization and yes, they are the primary caregivers who ensure that their children are fed, clothed and educated. That is NOT a stereotype, it is a fact of the current state of our civilization. There is nothing to say that this might not change in an evolving society where the men who cannot compete on the basis of critical thinking and communication skills find themselves taking over the roll of feeding, clothing and educating their children while their spouses become the primary breadwinners.

    Civilization is not static because if it fails to evolve it will die off.

    What you are hearing are the moans of those who don't know how to evolve.
     
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    ...what is this "civilization" you are talking about?
     
  17. Derideo_Te

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    The same one that the OP originally referred to in post #12.
     
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    The Scotsman, please identify the "civilization" of which you are talking.
     
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    I'm not.
    it seems to suggest....
    "In a nutshell man had to graft and build a modern civilisation. Once its complete, flourishing and easy to get by, thats when women start taking on more responsibility."
    ...so again whose civilisation? Would you include Saudi Arabia in that or Zimbabwe or China or is the implication just a "white western" version of civilization. The Issues of women and indeed most people can be said to be still in a state or barbarism even in some so called civilized countries. If the comments are just aimed at these white western nations are we discussing gender stereotyping through innate nurturing constructs or the existence of pay gaps in certain types of organisations or sports or celebrity?

    I find the whole basis of the thread rather puerile in its construction if all that is being discussed is this....
    !Its only recently man has given power to women because they decided too. If women were so great how come they allowed themselves to become so oppressed for most of history?"
     
  20. JakeStarkey

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    If you keep arguing this way, though you have been given multiple opportunities, to explain and expand, no one is going to give a rat's tush about your opinion on this subject.
     
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    So what difference does it make if the degree of advancement in civilization is not 100% identical in all nations of the world?

    Are you alleging that in the most backward regions that women are NOT the backbone of those civilizations as far as feeding, clothing and educating their children are concerned? Are you alleging that those regions are not actually civilized at all?

    We have already explained why women have been oppressed and how this is changing to a more egalitarian civilization. Which part of that still needs to be explained?
     
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    We are seeing examples of toxic masculinity in this thread, and such (as well as 'toxic feminism') need to be curbed wherever and whenever possible. Tough steps had to be taken in Jasper, Texas about the behavior of certain Christian and Islamic men towards women.
     
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    Men's existence on earth has been brutal and savage. How in the hell is that "the top"?
     
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    "Toxic" anything is an idiotic concept. Trying to "engineer" a society of wussies is inviting extinction.
     
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    Because they achieved things.
     
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