IKEA apologises for child shooting a gun

There's no law that prohibits it.

 

And you would ignore it.

 

It is not so much the above which is being observed. It is merely being recognized that while the situation could have been far worse due to various circumstances, ultimately such simply did not transpire. If the firearm owner can be held at fault for the loss of their firearm, the parents of the child must equally be held at fault for their lack of attention on their child apparently running about in an unsupervised manner. It is a two-way street.

That matter aside, this discussion has brought up a topic that may deemed interesting, and warrants a separate discussion with a dedicated thread of its own related to that topic.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...ing-to-the-loss-of-firearms-by-owners.536249/

 

Do hospital staff go to jail when they accidentally kill someone?

 

Was open carry illegal in Detroit?

 

I don't get that at all,
I understand securing the sidearm, did he not Identify as a qualified Law Enforcement Officer ? did he not have the proper credentials ?
His department ID ? Jurisdiction ?

What put you off about him ?

 

If the Guy was indeed a LEO from another applicable Jurisdiction, showing of a Firearm is maybe a nuisance, not a crime, and a LEO unless he / she is Undercover, identifies as a LEO, must show Shield / I.D. / Credentials, then its have a nice day.

Unless there are other bigger issues.

Open carry / concealed carry does not apply to Law Enforcement in the field or off duty although most are discreet about it and use a cover garment of some sort unless it was unusually hot then.

 

I'm just wondering how you can confiscate a firearm if no law is being broken.

 

You can't, it is not done, unless the LEO is obviously intoxicated, falling down drunk.

 

The gun owner should pay for any damages that were incurred.

 

Exactly.

The guy I quoted did confiscate his firearm.

 

Example, off duty, I am in a 7-11 late and wearing an old patrol jacket and a pair of uniform trousers without the stripe and am paying for a six pack, and a Uniformed Officer is next to me paying, and looks over, says, hard day huh ?
You know it I respond, too many open cases and no sleep !

Get some rest he answers !

And it was after I noticed my Police jacket, no patches, had ridden up and my service Revolver in it's Department approved holster was exposed.

It was a simple matter for him to verify if I was indeed a LEO by asking the seven questions which only a LEO can answer quickly and coherently.

 

So, depending on the state, being negligent is cause. I am unclear whether this standard is applied in Indiana. For me, there are other civil liabilities that the owner would be exposed to, as well as potential criminal complaints about being criminally negligent. I suppose these are already available as remedies. I suppose the left would rather folks just shrug it off though as they believe it demonstrates their narrative.

 

Ikea, should not.

He should not have his license revoked, but a ticket should be written.

We should not. The person that dropped the firearm was responsible for it and should take responsibility for mishandling it.

 

Bring a gun into a store that forbids guns may not be breaking a law, just a store policy.

 

You don't go into a public place and take off your coat to intentionally show-off to the other customers that you're a 'big man'. It's unethical and unprofessional. it's just something you don't do. And yes, he pissed me off.

 

I think this story also highlights why firearm safety should be taught to kids. When they can understand don't cross the street without a parent, they can understand don't touch a gun without a parent.

People today instead choose to ignore and pretend bad things don't happen and couldn't happen.

 

Well as Broderick Crawford aka
Dan Mathews of Highway Patrol used to say:
"Clowns at the Circus are hilarious, but on the Highway are Murder !"

This Guy did NOT take his responsibility seriously enough in "My Opinion"
I go with a reprimand, his new couch that he purchased from IKEA, as well as apologies to the childs parents.

Everyone learns from such an Experience, proviso, a warning that other such incidents would be dealt with more severely as lives could be lost or result in severe injuries to others, weapons require proper securing by their bearers.

 

Eddie Eagle, the program all the Gun Ban Clack puts down was all about that scenario, if you find a gun, don't touch !
Find an adult or a police officer, and TELL !

I can't see how anyone finds fault with the Eddie Eagle program.

 

As other vocal advocates of firearm-related restrictions have admitted before, they oppose firearm safety programs because such programs may encourage individuals to actually own firearms by removing the elements of mystery and fear about them.

 

Oh, so you were personally put out ?

Did the Officer Identify ?
Offer Badge / Shield / I.D. ?
Was any Agency or Departmental policy violated ?
What if he was a Fed ?

And it is only an opinion he was Bragadocio, again, was he belligerent ?
Did he identify as a LEO ?

 

BUT the Eddie Eagle program was NOT about gun safety at all, it was a short blurb for non gun kids on what to do if they find a gun in the home, a releative or freinds home,
WAL*MART, IKEA, McDonald's etc....
Given at all schools etc.

 

The owner of the restaurant, the staff and the customers were all shaken and understandably none of them approached the guy to ask why he was carrying. He did have the proper I.D. He was not belligerent. In fact he was embarrassed and appeared humiliated. There was alcohol involved but he did not seem intoxicated. I don't believe any departmental policy was violated. That doesn't change the fact he had caused a disturbance in a public place. Besides this was in 1956 when the world was a different place.

 

Lol, try that with an F.B.I. S.S.A. and see what happens, you get your wings clipped and get put on a short leash.

Anywho, the account does not add up, on several points, So I will just accept it as is.

 

The reason I ask is simply, I served as a LEO here in the U.S. and another Country as Constable, and of course Laws differ, Europe too, chased a few "Wanted" Ugly Americans" on the VICAP list, it's simply a LEO thing and most Police that are Armed are not due to any big man complex, and Women are not Men, and I certainly do not think or have ever thought big man stuff as my brain does not work that way.