In 24 States, 50% or More of Babies Born on Medicaid; New Mexico Leads Nation With 72%

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  1. rover77

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    In 24 of the nation’s 50 states at least half of the babies born during the latest year on record had their births paid for by Medicaid, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation.

    New Mexico led all states with 72 percent of the babies born there in 2015 having their births covered by Medicaid.
    Just my opinion , but I believe Obamacare was a bait and switch...the real objective was a massive expansion of Medicaid as a social welfare program with the tax penalties to finance it.They denied it was a tax until they were in front of SCOTUS.


    Source:http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/24-states-50-babies-born-medicaid
     
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    Maybe these people should get jobs that have health insurance as a benefit.
    Oh, there aren't enough?
     
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    Take maternal cover out of basic health care and you will have more unsupervised home births, an increase in infant mortality (which is already on the rise in some states) and an increase in abortions

    Your choice
     
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    Well, if you can't afford to pay to have your child, perhaps you need to wait until you can? Or, we could give em one free Medicaid birth, but if you use it, have other people to pay for it, perhaps you only get it paid for if you also get your tubes tied, so we only pay for one child?

    What should be free, and others would pay for it is birth control. Then we would not have to finance births, and close all the abortion clinics. This would also stop poor immigrants from breeding like rabbits on our dime. And citizens too. If we could only encourage responsibility instead of rewarding irresponsibility, that would be a sane and good thing.
     
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    Maybe they should make the cost of a birth affordable to 20 somethings?
    What a novel idea huh? Since it's mostly 20 somethings that have babies.
    Remember when it didn't cost 1 yrs worth of mortgage to have a baby? I'm sure you're old enough.
     
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    Way too many people on medicaid and way too many births on medicaid. It those babies are born on medicaid, it's almost a sure thing that the parent(s) are also receiving several other forms of welfare.

    Earlier this week, I was in line at the pharmacy at Wal Mart. The girl directly in front of me, looked maybe early 20's, was picking up a rx. The pharmacist had to come talk to her because there was an issue with her medicaid paying for it. She was holding her mouth so I'm thinking it was a toothache maybe. Her charge was $1 and she was raising holy hell over paying that $1. Now she looked fairly healthy. Had on normal clothing w/tennis shoes. Looked alone and has obviously been ok to walk in to Wal mart, but apparently was on medicaid. This town has places hiring everywhere. I see help wanted signs often and know of some businesses who have to close early because they don't have enough people to work. Why are we paying for people's medicaid because they won't work? I do realize I don't know her story, but she looked just fine, able bodied, and was getting free healthcare paid for by the taxpayers. I picked up my rx, had to pay for it, on top of paying a stupid high premium.

    Part of what's wrong with society today is that people aren't allowed to suffer any consequences for being lazy.
     
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    Well what did you expect? This is what happens when millions of illegal immigrants invade a country and crap out anchor babies. Who did you think was going to pay for this?
     
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    That's a factor, sex education is a factor as well(and yet, you'll have some pro-choice proponents generally speak against education as well. Yes, that's actually bizarre and I can't recall the reason why. Not to turn this into THAT type of thread.). I lament the idea of pulling a Colorado all across the country and basically subsidizing birth control, because for anyone who is not receiving subsides, the cost for birth control skyrockets.

    Basically, even if the government mass buys for consumers, the government is still a single entity. The market generates more value(quantity) through the number of buyers in a market. Decreasing the number of buyers means decreasing the total profit. Thus to make up for receiving less in payment through the government=higher sticker prices.
     
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    Keep subsidizing bad decisions, and you will get more of them.
     
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    Really? Then why do abortion rates go down when contraception is made more affordable

    RELIABLE contraception that is
     
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    The fact is, it's no longer a social stigma to have a child you can't afford because the government makes others pay for it. Give out condoms for free, I don't care.
     
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    Here't a radical thought - how about we make reliable contraception more affordable? The word here is RELIABLE - in and fact that was what planned parenthood was doing but ooooops! Guess who got a funding cut?

    Or since you are advocating an invasive procedure for women - one that is not reversible how about we make the playing field equal?

    All men to become sperm donors and then sterilised.

    You would have to petition a woman to be impregnanted by you and carry your child and you would have to pony up support BEFORE the pregnancy

    Fair???
     
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    Condoms are not reliable
     
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    AND another one who thinks condoms are reliable for contraception

    17% failure rate with "typical" use that is 17 out of 100 women get pregnant - and since that is an UNWANTED pregnancy.......
     
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    Men don't have control of their own bodies? How progressive. Abstinence works every time. People of both sexes need to learn self control.
     
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    7 billion on the planet last time we counted

    Yeah abstinence really works!!!

    BTW what is with Texas and the high infant and maternal mortality?

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rate-highest-in-developed-world-a7204016.html

    Or do we cure that with abstinence too??
     
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    I'm responsible for 5 people, and 2 of them are now adults with their own responsibility. I'm not responsible for the other 6,999,999,995 people. You adopt them.

    Texas has low education rates, high infant and maternal mortality rates, and a million other problems because of all of the illegals from Mexico. They aren't the whole problem, but they do make it worse.
     
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    Remember when people used to get married before have babies? What a novel idea huh?
    64% of millennials have out-of-wedlock kids.


    http://www.slate.com/articles/busin..._wedlock_childbirth_is_the_norm_now_what.html
     
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    Medicaid shouldn't cover the middle and upper-middle class. When it does, there's no incentive for people to find their own coverage.

    Once again, government is trying to crowd out the private sector.
     
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    I pay $9/month at Wal Mart for the generic bc pill. That's affordable. So what is your argument?
     
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    Women are the ones impregnated, yes? Seems that if I could avoid a potentially life changing "affliction" like pregnancy, I'd take PREcautions. Reliable precautions. To protect MYSELF. There's only been 1 recorded case of "immaculate" conception of which I'm aware.
     
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    Except in cases of rape, women have complete control over whether they have sex or not. Correct? You are your first line of defense if you don't want children. Who's fault is it except yours?
     
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    So do men - what I see on this board is complete lack of acknowledgement that men have any role in conception whatso ever
     
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