Interns Get Fired En Masse After Protesting Dress Code at Work

San Diego approved a minimum wage increase at the start of June. California, New York, and Oregon signed minimum wage bills a few months before. Hasn't all kicked in, but people are certainly shopping for jobs and hiring for them with those increases in mind.

College student migration isn't something new, the ratio of part-time to full time jobs though may make it more of a factor than it's been in the past. Just saying 'may' — not claiming I know what caused these numbers.

If you got different numbers for the new hires, please post them. The numbers I mentioned weren't mine and they surprised me also. If there is something misleading in those numbers, I'd like to know about it.




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It could take 5 minutes, it could take 15 minutes, doesn't matter. My point still remains that its stupid on behalf of the business owner to worry about what clothing their employees are wearing. No one here has actually convinced me why a stringent dress code is actually worth even a minute implementing. This post I just made is even more beneficial.

 

Who said anything about "stringent"? My point is you don't get to dictate to a private business what their dress code should or should not be and your lack of understanding why such dress codes are appropriate speaks volumes about and expertise to speak on the matter.

 

Where is the credible evidence to validate this event occurred? An unnamed blogger referencing an unnamed poster and an unnamed company isn't validation of its credibility. This is how fictitious right wing memes begin. And Republicans wonder why people think they are stupid. You have no evidence this ever occurred.

Having been in business and having worked for businesses and having had interns, I can't imagine interns acting in such a manner. Interns are there not to stir the pot. They are there to learn and develop a resume and get a good reference, and they aren't there for long, a few months at most. So your story doesn't pass the smell test. It doesn't pass the common sense test. But, hey, you don't need that for a fictitious right wing meme.

 

What percent of minimum wage jobs are held by employees over 55?

 

Well, the website has been around for awhile, and while some of the stories might well have been made up or parts embellished, I imagine many haven't. And as I said pages ago, any of us who have worked for even a few years have at least a couple stories of employees doing the absolutely dumbest things. Heck, when I was around 18 the very first day I started working at a Carl's Jr, the guy working the cooks station was arrested on the spot behind the counter for dealing drugs. Even funnier was the manager asking the officer if he'd be back before the lunch rush ended as the guy was being taken out of the unit - he was apparently good at that job at least. So dumb things really do happen.

Also, I looked about that website and while I can't presume to have read every story there, the place appears to be apolitical. So what you're doing is presuming that because you don't like the story, it must be a right-wing blog. Interesting attitude since politics have been largely absent from this thread (at least to the degree they are elsewhere) and the general theme here seems to be more about millennials and their attitudes i.e. generational attitudes rather than political ones. I sense projection on your part. Also, I would assume that if any personal or business names were used, they would likely be redacted by either the poster OR the blogger as a way of steering clear of any possible lawsuits.

 

Good question, what percent?



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Sure. You could be right. It could be that all those people making sound choices just got lucky and didn't end up in poverty.

 

Could be. Could be the factors that reduced their chances of dropping out of school, getting into crime, or failing in marriage also influenced their career choices.



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http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/09/08/who-makes-minimum-wage/

 

Good link, thanks! Doesn't seem to answer the question. Looks like 26% of part-time workers are over 55.



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Only if you own a company.

With he childish attitude of entitlement you'd be lucky to own a mobile home

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No it is not slavery when one asks for a volunteer to work for free.

 

You can now, if you can produce on your own.

If you choose to rely on someone else to make your efforts into something useful, you will always have to work within their process.



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Whatever contortions you gotta do to remove personal responsibility, you rock it out off you are convinced.

 

I have no problem leaving someone to the consequences of their choices or even to the unfairness that is just part of life. *shrug* Neither am I willing to pretend those differences don't exist.

("rock it out off you are convinced?" ... *sigh* our public education system at it's finest.)



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I said 90% of new hires being 55+ was an asinine statement. No point in conversing with anyone who believes that.

 

I think you're being a little hard on yourself.




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Sigh, no it's called a cell phone with auto correct. Also, your post is pretty weak on substance. Were you purposefully being vague?

 

I don't think so, probably just distracted (and juggling too many threads). What do you want clarification on?



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If you read the article carefully, you can get a whiff of why they were fired. I guarantee that they all had a liberal organizer instructor in College. One that filled their heads with glorious stories of righting the perceived injustices in the world. You know one of those many terrorists turned Professor. So, when they get hired as an intern, they fought against the first thing that rankled their fur. A dress code.

The writer of the post claimed that they were angered by the hypocrisy that someone was allowed to wear foot wear that they weren't. The writer did not try to find out why this individual was allowed to deviate from the code. Instead the writer organized their fellow interns, with the exception of the only smart one in the group, and organized a protest. They wrote a proposal, and signed a petition. In Corporate America that is tantamount to forming a union, and grounds for immediate dismissal. They are lucky that the management took the time to explain things to them. Most companies would have had security meet them at the door, with no explanation. Here is your pink slip, give me your badge. We will mail you your belongings. If you attempt to return to the property, you will be arrested as a trespasser.

Here is what I thought was the real kicker to explain that these were a bunch of liberal loons. "But that’s not the worst part. “Just before the meeting ended, one of the managers told us that the worker who was allowed to disobey the dress code was a former soldier who lost her leg and was therefore given permission to wear whatever kind of shoes she could walk in. You can’t even tell, and if we had known about this we would have factored it into our argument.” The worst part wasn't that they were fired. It was the fact that the individuals that was allowed to wear the non-prescribed footwear was a former soldier that had lost her leg. How dare they make an exception for a mere soldier as opposed to a prima donna college student that has lived off their parents their entire life. "...If they had known, they would have factored it into our argument." Welcome to the real world punks!

 

The fact is the story is not supported and is from specious sources. The funny thing is partisans never feel their sources are political. It's funny how that works, and it doesn't matter how long the story has been there. The fact is the story doesn't make sense nor can it be substantiated. As I said before, interns are there to learn, to build up their resumes, and receive a job reference and they are only on the job for a few months.

Yeah, some employees do dumb things. But that's not what we are talking about here. We are talking about students who have invested a lot of time and money to become an intern. Many interns are not paid. They aren't employees. Some of your larger firms will employ interns, but not all employers do. In any case interns are always temporary. They don't have a long-term relationship with the firm. Now that may change if the firm decides to hire them as a permanent employee. Interns aren't that dumb.

 

The anonymity of the website is likely what helps people ask questions there so they can be free of the fear of someone tracking them down if they didn't like what they did. "Hey, you read about Joe Smith from Acme Sprockets who wrote that article? Let's hack his Facebook!" It's like the old Dear Abby/Ann Landers columns where people would ask for advice on some matter or another and never use their real names, but you assumed they were telling the truth because what's the use in asking for advice if you're dishonest about it? So while you have a point, I think you're overlooking the reasons why it's not overly supported. And maybe it WAS made up, who knows for sure. The New York Times has made fabricating news stories it's own personal cottage industry, and perhaps Brian Williams edits the blog. On ther other hand, maybe it's true as well. People are pretty damned idiotic sometimes, especially when you factor in obvious inexperience in the workplace. I can tell you that there are some pretty stupid noobs out there who would do something this moronic. I also said this earlier in the thread, I knew two student teachers who were removed from the program for blatant acts of stupidity. It does happen.

95% of recorded history has occurred because people of all stripes, including interns, ARE that dumb. And I'm probably underestimating that percentage.

This is a very odd statement coming from someone who's a member of the Reagan Conservatives group here at PF.com.

 

Ever heard of this extremely dumb intern named Monica Lewinski? lol.

 

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OWCH lol!

 

Extremely dumb...? I don't think so. Lewinski was seduced by her boss. That's not what we are talking about here. For your edification, the source asserted interns participated in a campaign to change workplace rules. That's not like falling in love with your boss.

The fact remains the source for this meme is spurious at best. There is absolutely no evidence of its veracity. But Republicans i.e. so called conservatives unquestioningly accept it as gospel truth...LOL Unfortunately, this is all too typical of Republicans. This is just one of many fallacious memes alive and well in Republican circles. Unfortunately, it's how the party survives.