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Iran Shot Down The Ukrainian Airliner

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Esperance, Jan 9, 2020.

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't have the time right now to read through 125 posts, so can someone just right to the end and tell me how Trump is being blamed for this?
     
    Steve N, Jan 9, 2020
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  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Regardless of the intentions.....let's see if Canada and other countries join America in bringing I ran to it's knees now that the stupid treaty is about ready to expire.
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 9, 2020
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  3. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yup, and now 176 human beings are dead because the Cro-Magnons in Tehran had to retaliate to a response to their own acts of aggression.
     
    Talon, Jan 9, 2020
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  4. Dayton3

    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    I'm shocked. Soybeans grow in Iraq?
     
    Dayton3, Jan 9, 2020
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  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    not true and you know it, would be up to future Presidents to extend or create a new deal, Trump just said go ahead and make nukes now
     
    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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  6. Badaboom

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    Check the nyt video posted here.
     
    Badaboom, Jan 9, 2020
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  7. FreshAir

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    they should just get a black permanent marker and alter the evidence, works for Trump

    if they accidentally shot down the plane, they should just come clean, same if the US did it, either way, come clean
     
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    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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  8. Heartburn

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    So it was impossible for Obama to negotiate an extension of troops in Iraq but just any old future President will be able to talk Iran out of making nukes?

    If they do as Trump invited them to do and build a nuclear arsenal, what will they do with it?
     
    Heartburn, Jan 9, 2020
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  9. Bearack

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    Man, your hate is deep... You really should maybe purge such animosity.
     
    Bearack, Jan 9, 2020
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  10. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

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    ... why in the hell do you think that’s a pragmatic strategy.... since during the last gazillion years of sanctions raised against them they’ve managed to develop a sophisticated scientific program that’s allowed them to develop a nuclear capability.... maybe imposing even harder sanctions will lead to cure for cancer... ffs.....
     
    The Scotsman, Jan 9, 2020
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  11. Bearack

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    Actually, his EXACT words were " As long as I am President of the United States, Iran will never be allowed to have a nuclear weapon.".
     
    Bearack, Jan 9, 2020
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    Not where Iranian missiles land! :banana:
     
    HB Surfer, Jan 9, 2020
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  13. FreshAir

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    you have nothing I see but personal attacks against other posters
     
    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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  14. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why the hell do you think sanctions have anything to do with scientific advancement? Would you like to send more pallets of money?
     
    yabberefugee, Jan 9, 2020
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  15. FreshAir

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    Trump will only be President for another year, and Trump ended the deal, so they will eventually have nukes because of Trump unless the next President can make a new deal
     
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    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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  16. Bearack

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    First, I don't attack posters. My response to you was merely an observation of your very apparent anger against Trump. I merely offered a solution.
     
    Bearack, Jan 9, 2020
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  17. FreshAir

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    no anger in that post at all, plenty of anger and hate in your reply, what I said sadly is true
     
    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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  18. Hoosier8

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    They would have nukes anyway. The deal was not long term. All intelligence said they were anywhere from weeks to a few months to have them anyway.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 9, 2020
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  19. FreshAir

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    nope, Obama prevented them from having nukes with his deal, Trump ended the deal, Trump owns all issues with Iran now
     
    FreshAir, Jan 9, 2020
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    Your theory that an unannounced deviation from a standard departure would pique the interest of some AA battery has some merit. It's plausible. It assumes the spontaneous mechanical event was catastrophic to the electrical systems ( thus transponder silent, radio silent etc) when at the time the aircraft was on course and climbing. Plausible.

    It's just as plausible that a missile took out the critical systems.

    Or providential. I wonder how the 4.9-magnitude earthquake that struck Iran near the Bushehr nuclear plant Wednesday impressed some within Iran.
     
    Labouroflove, Jan 9, 2020
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  21. Bearack

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    I think the democrats have assured Trumps reelection, that I am confident but it's a personal observation and opinion. I truly think when Trump is reelected (again, my opinion), he will negotiate a treaty with Iran that will involve the removal of US troops with Iran removing their nuclear ambitions.
     
    Bearack, Jan 9, 2020
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  22. The Scotsman

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    ...what ya wittering on about? You think sanctions work huh...? That the latest wheeze over there? More sanctions because the last ones were just so magnificently successful!!!???
     
    The Scotsman, Jan 9, 2020
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  23. Hoosier8

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    Nope what? The deal was not long term.
     
    Hoosier8, Jan 9, 2020
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    Because Donald Trump overthrew the Iraqi Prime Minister in 1953 who apparently was a combination of George Washington and Ghandi.
     
    Dayton3, Jan 9, 2020
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  25. The Scotsman

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    Ah.....sorry....disregard my last one....just realised you obviously don’t do irony...
     
    The Scotsman, Jan 9, 2020
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