Iran Shot Down The Ukrainian Airliner

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  1. Dayton3

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    You've been listening to Sandy Shanks too long.

    Any deal with Iran that did not include members of the American military conducting unannounced at will inspections is utterly worthless.
     
  2. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if we still have more of Iran's money, and we could return it to them for a new deal.. yes
     
  3. FreshAir

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    even Trump own advisors and many republican agreed ending the deal was bad for America and made us less safe

    Trump said he would create a bigger better deal, we are still waiting
     
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    The deal was extremely weak and ALLOWED for Iran to continue to build towards a nuclear weapon 15 years from the deals inception and during those 15 years, Iran was allowed to enrich and enrich uranium beyond any practical civilian need.

    They could continue to advance the development of their centrifuges to enrich uranium more rapidly.

    Iran was given a 24 day warning. Yes, 24 DAY warning for inspectors to inspect their facilities.

    This are only a few of the many major flaws with the JCPOA. It served no one but Iran and continued to allow them to develop weapons of mass destruction.
     
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    It was apparently shot down by a sophisticated Russian missile system.
    Russian crew?
     
  6. US Conservative

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    The first thing Trump said in his address yesterday was that Iran will never have nukes as long as he's president.
     
  7. Bearack

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    I am the most non angry guy you'll ever meet. Matter of fact, my co-workers get sick of how optimistic I am about EVERYTHING. I didn't like Obama, but for heavens sake, I wanted him to succeed and make this country freaking AWESOME. I merely think he failed at it. I don't hate him for it... As a matter of fact, I hate no one. Hate is such a nasty trait that festers on a person.

    Trump, don't like the man. Not sure I could even have a beer with him (and I can have a beer with ANYONE just about). However, I also know he has served a MAJOR purpose in highlighting how F'ed our political system is. Our economy is rocking and unemployment is at unseen levels in decades and my 401K and my investments have seen a 36% increase while I have had 2 promotions in the last 2 years. I cant help but hope that continues.
     
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    Really? Really? Have you fallen for the RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA bullshit too? Any weapon/defense system in the Middle East is either made by us or the Russians because the Allah savages aren't capable or they are busy concentrating on building a nuke for the great satan.
     
  9. Bearack

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    In fairness, could you please detail why you think the JCPOA would have prevented Iran from building a nuclear weapon?
     
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    say the missile was Russian, so looks like Iran accidentally shot down the plane thinking was a us response
     
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    NEVER FORGET THE TRAGEDY OF THE IRANIAN ATTACK!!!!

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    Soybeans... they are in our hearts.
     
  12. FreshAir

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    it already has, now we will never know, now it's all on Trump as he broke the deal
     
  13. Bearack

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    How did it prevent them? You have to give some detail, please.
     
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    as am I, but your reply to my post sure seemed to show a lot of hate in it for anyone that stated anything you did not like about Trump

    I was a Trump supporter in the beginning, but I no longer support him, he is not good for America, he is a bad President

    I agree Obama failed, because he had a republican Congress that hated him and would not even support things they supported as they did not want to give him a win, that same republican congress is still hurting America under Trump
     
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  15. Josh77

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    His deal is there is no ****ing deal. No nukes. As it should be.
     
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    Wouldn't Iran have to agree too lol. If and's and buts, I'll say Iran was working on the program in there off limits military bases like any normal f'ing country would do. I mean seriously who signs an agreement where you can't inspect where they would actually have an nuke program and allow them to fund terrorists still? Oh I already know the answer Biden and Obama.
     
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    Hey, I gotta eat ... :-?
     
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    Nah. It was prolly an automation. Wickedly stoopud on Iran's part to activate an air defense automation in Malard - close to commercial aircraft operations.
     
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    Well he's right...
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    I have to take issue with Buck's "almost." There ain't no "almost" about it!
     
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    Something is badly wrong with your processor. Get some help if not for yourself do it for those that care about you.

    There is no logical path to your assertion. Period. If other dems dont voice this they are enabling your insanity .
     
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  22. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    That could be as short as the next 15 minutes.
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    They don't have much choice. The will also know exactly who fired the missile and why and should be able to prosecute them. Will they come forward with that of create some charade? I expect the latter.
     
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    Hard to believe iran intentionally killed their own people. Imo it was a mistake and someone screwed up. If it turns out they fired missles. They may have been jumpy expecting a US attack.

    Our military shot down an airliner years ago by mistake.

    Blaming this on trump is a tale told by an idiot. If iran screwed up this is on them a horrible accideny that killed Iranians and iranians who live in Canada.
     
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    Oh GEEEZ when has Iran ever been honest about anything they do? It was probably not on purpose, someone screwed up. Now will Iran admit to the facts and bring those persons forward for a full investigation and prosecution?
     
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