Iran warns N.Korea not to trust Trump

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    I’m positively normal compared to you
     
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    Its too bad foreigners dont know as much about America as they claim to know

    If you thought you were dealing with the United States you were only partially correct

    Obama did not present the iran deal as a treaty to be ratified by the US senate

    So it was just a worthless peice of paper as trump demonstrated
     
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    What are you talking about? Is that an allusion to the Iran deal?
     
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    Because they're either out to troll Trump haters or are just desperate for any apparent Trump success, no matter how minor or fictitious it actually is.
     
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    It is

    Obama did not ask the senate to ratify his deal as a treaty
     
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    Welp, that seems true enough. Congressional Republicans never would have gone along with it and 0bama and Kerry ducked and dodged to avoid them.

    That doesn't excuse Trump's handling of this thing, though.
     
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    Other than suspending the joint exercises which I disagree with Trump has done nothing that deserves thumbs down so far
     
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    President can't make a treaty without the US Senate agreement and he didn't have that. That's the law of the United States. That's why Americans are telling you that you don't what you are talking about.
     
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    Trump seems to be doing the very same thing with NK and not a peep from you.
     
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    I'm not aware of a document purporting to a TREATY between the US and the Norks. If you know of such a document please let the rest of us in on it.
     
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    Sorry, but seriously now asked: Do you want to fool me and the others here?

    Of course was the Iran Deal in 2015 in the Senat and the Republicans faled to block it, because 42 Democrat Senators blocked legally the resolution of the Republican Senators!

    Bang ... next BS fairy tale about Iran Deal unmasked!
     
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    Sorry ... but BS!
    The Senate was asked and the Republicans failed by the action of 42 Democrat Senators. Republicans needed 60 votes and earned only 58.
    Don't twist historical facts and truth and claim nonsense please!
     
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    ROFL ... I as Foreigner seem to know more about you in America than you, who is a native American!

    FACTS....

    September, 2015:

    In the US Senate, a blockade of the controversial nuclear deal with Iran failed at the first attempt: The Republicans missed the required majority for a bill that should reject the international agreement with Tehran.
    The Republicans would have actually needed 60 out of 100 senatorial votes to end the debate on a resolution against the agreement and have it voted on. In recent weeks, 42 senators from the camp of Obama's Democrats have declared their support for the Iran deal. With this number of votes, the Democrats now blocked the resolution introduced by the Republicans. A vote expected in the House of Representatives until Friday is only symbolic.
    Formal ratification of the agreement by the US Congress is not required. However, Parliament could have opposed the lifting of US sanctions.

    And apparently you Trump fans have as always synonymous memory loss what happened there too ....
    By noon on the day of the decision, two popular Republicans had also mobilized against the agreement: US presidential candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz demonstrated with their supporters on the grassroots front of the US Congress. The control rules are holes, the sanction loosening negligent - so their claims. Trump announced at the time that if he win the presidential election next year, he would reverse the deal!

    So I as evil Foreigner know more than you Americans what happened and what is was legally right decided... and so as a Foreigner I must thus again expose your lies and false claims as such!
    Not only are you chattering Trump's BS 1: 1 like a parrot, no, you also start twisting historical facts and spreading lies, as the IDIOTUS itself does!
     
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    Are you certain you read and understood what happened here? The deal was never ratified.
     
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    Yes, the republicans failed to reject the deal

    But they failed to ratify it also

    So it remaimed just a worthless scrap of paper
     
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    See my previous post
     
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    Why would they when Democrats didn't like it?

    http://www.politifact.com/new-york/...r-once-opposed-iran-nuclear-deal-he-now-supp/
     
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    Nope, you fail to understand what this means. Its simply parliamentary maneuvering. In the end the Senate did not ratify Obama's deal with Iran so it was never law in the United States. Formal ratification by the Senate is required for any treaty to become law. That's why Trump could dismiss it with a stroke of his pen.

    By the way this is the exact reason why the United States was never a member of the League of Nations. The US Senate rejected the Versailles Treaty which was the last act of World War One and with it the League of Nations. You simply don't understand how government works in the US.
     
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    Ehm ... I do not understand? Interesting! It is therfor ratified due to fact thet Republicans failed to block it - point!

    So we have a valid and binding deal for the USA and you can tell and argue what you want, this deal is a valid one and the USa broke it!
    And more, they try to force others to break the deal too in a mattrer of do what we want or we will punish you!
     
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    Se my post above - any further rediculous argueing about bla bla bla with Senate is unimportant!
     
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    See my 2 posts above! Read it again please!
     
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    This why Germans are known throughout the world as stubborn ignorant blockheads. Nothing can penetrate their thick skulls except bullets.
     
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