Is a libertarian is essentially a slow conservative?

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  1. james M

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    Yes, a liberal finds government power to be magical when applied to any problem, a libertarian finds government makes all problems worse, and conservatives are in the middle finding government power make the economy worse and the soul better.
     
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    You mean a "slower" conservative?
     
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    so is libertarian a dumb conservative??
     
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    I suppose thats close enough to accurate.

    Though I would say conservatives are slow libertarians, slowly waking up to the idea that government power cannot be grown in one area and reduced in another. It either has to be held in check across the board or it will grow across the board.
     
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    I think essential issue is conservatives will legislate on social issues while libertarians will not
     
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    Dumb and conservative is repetitive
     
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    Libertarians would legislate on social issues if the legislation were enacted in a more voluntary (less authoritative) manner. The problem is that ALL of our proposed legislation on social issues rests upon the foundation of force- as in, you will participate or be treated as a criminal. Voluntary solutions are rarely if ever brought to the table.
     
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    you mean redundant, right 8)
     
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    Repetitive works as well
     
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    I thought legislation was mostly authoritative. What's an example of not?
     
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    Most conservatives are big government lovers and dont know it.
    Then they cry when the big gov ****s them over
     
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    even trump just cut taxes and regulations massively.
    so you have no idea about difference between Con libs libertarians?
     
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    And spent a trillion making corporatists happy
     
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    ?????
    trump is against obamacare corporatism covering 20% of entire economy. Do you understand?
     
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    Pretty much. Most conservatives are hypocrites. They decry government overreach and demand that people be left to their own devices but if its something that they don't like then all of a sudden they want the Feds to step in and regulate everything.

    Many wanted flag burning to be made illegal, they threw temper tantrums cause some athletes kneeled at games and the one bill the proves beyond any doubut how hypocritical conservatives are is DOMA which was a huge government intrusion into a very private aspect of people's lives and conservatives were all for it at the time. They also don't seem to mind wasteful spending if its done by Republicans because I haven't heard a peep of criticism about the massive budget we just had last year.
     
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    if you thought about difference between cons lib and libertarians you'd have a far better understanding of political spectrum
     
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    wrong of course they decry government that goes beyond founding political and social principles . Do you understand?
     
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    why not they want to conservative the basic social principles on which our country was founded!!!
     
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    they don't mind wasteful spending if its needed to recover from Obama's long long recession, and to get needed spending for military
     
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    libertarians are not swift and cons even less swift.
     
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    If you could avoid paying SS tax by opting to never be elligible to receive SS benefits, for example. That would make it voluntary.
     
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    Tell me where marriage, flag burning or protesting is mentioned in the founding documents. You are ****ing hypocrites.
     
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    Literally nothing in that budget did anything about the Obama years. We recovered because of tax cuts and reduced regulations. The extra bloated spending in that bill did NOTHING for the economy.
     
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    The country wasn't founded on marriage. For **** sake people were married long before the United States was even around.
     

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