Is Gender Studies really a real science?

And yet you have evaded every opportunity to produce this evidence .. not just here but in the other debate as well.

So sad to see the total dishonesty you employ

 

I think many folks try to produce actual science, but I agree many do not. Science is hard. Some don't have the patience to collect observations or the humility to make tentative assertions based on them, doing the hard work of building up useful certainty and sufficient confidence in their models while accepting that theirs will always be incomplete experiences producing what will always be incomplete models. Useful models, powerful models that can put a man on the moon or split an atom... but always incomplete models.

Many skip over scientific method entirely, they label assertions as facts — that which is indisputable. Then link together a couple "indisputable" statements and claim to know truth. And yes, many erroneously call that science.




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And I have done so and you saw it and lie about it

 

Your responses are there to see in this thread and the other one in neither have you supplied a single thing to support your delusional opinion ... if you had supplied anything - which we both know you haven't - you wouldn't be so evasive when asked to link to this make believe evidence of yours. You have no credit ability, no honesty and lie consistently.

 

There's no evidence that the 5% gap is the result of discrimination. There is, however, evidence to suggest that the %5 gap is the result of more choice.

 

Everyone has lied.



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This was the first chapter of the last book I wrote and it's also been published as an OP ED piece in newspapers....


“Today, the average full-time working woman earns just 77 cents for every dollar a man earns…in 2014, that’s an embarrassment. It is wrong.”
–President Obama, remarks on equal pay for equal work, April 8, 2014

Liberals believe stupid things because they believe completely in things in the complete absence of evidence in the presence of contradictory evidence, even, and The Wage Gap is an excellent example of this. That’s why it’s the number one stupid thing Liberals believe.

Normally you’ll always find these three statistics in every single study you read: a mean, a standard deviation, and confidence intervals. However, a study exists on the wage gap that’s so good it doesn’t have confidence intervals. Normally a study will calculate confidence intervals because they tell you how likely population statistics are within a certain margin of error of the sample you actually took based on that samples size. However this study was so inclusive there was no need to calculate population parameters like confidence intervals, because the sample in this study is the entire population. This study is that good. The study titled tiled “An analysis of the reasons for the disparity between the wages of men and women” was prepared for The United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Division in 2009 by the CONSAD research corporation.

The 2009 study for the United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Division found that all but 5% of the 22% wage gap is explained by choices made by the genders and there’s no evidence to suggest the remaining 5% is the result of discrimination. In fact evidence suggests the remaining 5% gap is the result of more choice, namely the Researchers at CONSAD believe the 5% gap is the result of women choosing more compensation in the form of non-wage benefits but the Researchers at CONSAD couldn’t quantify this factor because of the limitations of their model, namely multivariate regression analysis.

When there is a high R value (coefficient of correlation) between dependent variables in multivariate regression analysis the results can’t be quantified because there is said to be collinearity. Basically, when there is collinearity, you can’t tell what’s influencing what. Is the dependent variable, benefits, being influencing by the independent variable, gender, or is the dependent variable being influenced by another dependent variable in the model?

However, it’s possible that the remaining 5% is the result of more choice that just couldn’t be quantified statistically. In a forward to the CONSAD study Charles E. James, SR, Deputy Assistant Secretary For Federal Contract Compliance wrote:

Although additional research in this area is clearly needed, this study leads to the unambiguous conclusion that the differences in the compensation of men and women are the result of a multitude of factors and that the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action. Indeed, there may be nothing to correct. The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers

Even though it’s almost been entirely proven that the wage gap is the result of choice, not discrimination, liberals insist on blaming the consequences of women’s choices and actions on men. For example, Barack Obama also insinuated a 22% wage gap exists that’s the result of discrimination in his 2013 and 2014 State of the union addresses. [6]

Some of the pay gap can be explained by what the genders tend to choose to study at university. For example, men are much more likely to study STEM (science technology engineering and math). For instance, in a paper by Andresse St. Rose titled “STEM Major Choice and the Gender Pay Gap” she found in 2007 women earned 17 percent of Bachelors degrees in engineering, compared to earning 79 percent of Bachelors degrees in education. In 2006 women earned only 20 percent of Bachelor degrees in physics, computer science, and engineering.[4] In a 2007 paper by Dey and Hill titled Behind the Gender Pay Gap they found STEM degrees tend to have higher salaries than their peers with degrees in other disciplines. For example, one year after graduation, an education major working full time earned, on average, about 60 percent as much as an engineering major working full time ($525 versus $851 per week)[4]

Despite earning most of the degrees in post-secondary education women are choosing not to major in subjects that result in them being qualified for the lucrative careers that men are more likely to be qualified for when they graduate, and according to Liberals this is men’s fault? If liberals believe in equality then shouldn’t they believe women should be equally accountable for the consequences of their actions and choices as men? Blaming men for the consequences of your actions and choices is not accountability.

For decades, liberals have claimed that discrimination blocks women from landing academic positions in STEM fields. However a paper published online by the National Academy of Sciences by Wendy M Williams and Stephen J. Cecil titled National Hiring experiments Reveal 2:1 Faculty Preference For Women on STEM Tenure Track found that in experiments with professors from 371 colleges and universities across the United States that science and engineering faculty actually preferred women two-to-one over identically qualified male candidates for assistant professor positions. [5]

If you’re preferred 2:1, you’re not being discriminated against. Some people might even suggest a 1:1 preference of identically qualified candidates would be equality and a 2:1 preference for women over identically qualified male candidates is actually an indication of discrimination against men, not women.


Bibliography



[1] CONSAD Research Corporation 2009. “An Analysis of Reasons for the Disparity in Wages Between Men and Women” Prepared for The United States Department of Labor Employment Standards Administration Accessed August 23, 2015. http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender Wage Gap Final Report.pdf

[2] Andresse St. Rose 2010. “STEM major choice and the gender pay gap” On Campus with Women
http://archive.aacu.org/ocww/volume39_1/feature.cfm?section=1

[3]Dey, J. G., and C. Hill. 2007. Behind the pay gap. Washington, DC: AAUW Educational Foundation
National Association of Colleges and Employers. 2009. Salary survey

[4] Stephen J. Cecil and Wendy M. Williams, “National Hiring Experiments Reveal 2:1 Faculty Preference For Women on STEM Tenure Track,” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2015/04/women-preferred-21-over-men-stem-faculty-positions

[5] Glenn Kessler,” President Obama’s persistent ’77-cent’ claim on the wage gap gets a new Pinocchio rating,” The Washington Post, April, 9th, 2014, The Washington Post, https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-on-the-wage-gap-gets-a-new-pinocchio-rating/

 

Women's Studies is quack science.

For example, feminists believe males are mutants of females because we all start out as females.

However, all you have to do is pick up any biology 101 book to learn what makes one male or female is the sex chromosome you inherit from your father.

If you inherit a Y chromosome from your father you'll be male. If you inherit an X chromosome from your father you'll be female.

Feminists also believe gender is entirely a social construct. Feminists/sociologist are the only "scientists," and I'm using the term "scientists" loosely here, who believe this, and 66 million euro was withdrawn from the Nordic Gender Research Institute when it was found they were using bogus science to try to support this claim.

The most far out paper I've read from feminist researchers is the claim that slouching on public transport (bad posture) leads to discrimination against women, including wage discrimination, and rape. I am not joking.

It would be funny if I were joking, but it's true.

 

There is no evidence to suggest that the %5 gap is the result of more choice, that is just a "best guess" made by the people who compiled the research you cite.

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Really, point out where I have please.

 

Nowhere have I ever agreed that the wage gap is 22%, and yet despite all the bluster above, no one has been able to really account for the ~5% gap that still exists after all known considerations have been taken into account .. the excuse used above to attempt to try and account for it is nothing more than a guess - However, it’s possible that the remaining 5% is the result of more choice that just couldn’t be quantified statistically. - do you know what that word means in the context used?

Possible - That may exist or happen, but that is not certain or probable - https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/possible

What they are saying is that the believe it is "possible" that the ~5% left is due to more choices .. but in reality they simply don't know.

 

I had some exposure to it through having my second major being sociology during undergraduate. I think one can conduct scientific inquiries into gender studies. However, most people involved in gender studies have a dogma and agenda, which makes it more of a secular religion than science. It's sort of like African American or Latino studies.

 

There is no unexplained 5 % gap.

The evidence has been presented to you on multiple threads multiple times your chidlish lies and denial is boring

 

You are just a boring hack that has never posted a single thing to back up your bullsh1t . .now go along to bed like mummy told you to and leave the adult debates to those who know what they are talking about, come back when or if your balls drop.

 

You are Aan outright proven and immature liar.

I have indeed many times and made you suck on the fact.

I and many others have shown evidence to you in your face and you know it.

Run back to your rock and hide

 

blah .. blah .. blah .. same old childish rants with nothing to back them up. you still haven't produced as single comment where you have provided your so called evidence.

Now you can continue to talk hot air our of your arse, but in the end you are exposed for the pathetic excuse of a human being that you are, and really just a waste of air.

 

You are lying and yes I have on many threads you just consistently lie and deny that fact. And you know it

Just leave little boy

 

Gender studies is not a science. If that's science, then so is German Muffin Science, or AA Battery Science.

 

blah .. blah .. blah . .same old sh1t just a different day

 

Yes from you

 

You are right for proof just ask any female staffer that Hillary employs.

 

That Is a lie. You used to claim there was a 22% wage gap that was the result of discrimination, Fugazi. I could go back and search your posts and find where you supported this claim, but it simply is not important enough to me. However, it may be important enough to Soupnazi, since you've called him a liar in like 30 posts. It's there Soupnazi if you want to take the time to find it...Fugazi used to claim that there was a 22% wage gap that is the result of discrimination.

And the evidence that it's probable that the 5% is the result of more choice:

Fact: women tend to choose more compensation in the form of non-wage benefits than men. That's a fact.

 

Looking in the mirror when you typed that obviously.

 

I really couldn't careless who the employer is, the issue is not partisan.

 

I see so you make an unproven accusation and then run away from actually attempting to give some evidence to that accusation, unlike you I don't make accusations without evidence to support them, and as can plainly be seen I have never stated there is a 22% wage gap;

The very first time the "wage gap" was mentioned by me was in this thread - http://www.politicalforum.com/womens-rights/332112-men-have-rights-too.html and as can be seen I didn't state that there is a 22% wage gap.

Most of our earliest exchanges were concerned about your inability to be specific, you instead used generalization (which you still do) as a method of demeaning a whole group of people without any cause. You then attempted a smear campaign against me, which was of course a complete and utter failure because anyone could see from the actual topics that you, yet again, were full of crap.

Our first exchange concerning the wage gap is in this thread - http://www.politicalforum.com/womens-rights/401511-wage-gap-scheme-feminists-10.html and again nowhere do I state that there is a 22% wage gap, I did say that some research shows a 21% wage gap, that does not equate to me accepting that figure, as can obviously seen by anyone who wishes to read it.

As far as Soupnazi is concerned in ANY debate with me they have NEVER provided a single piece of evidence to support their childish rants.

and is as known your grasp of the English language is lacking to say the least, the very studies you posted yourself in evidence for your point cannot and do not account for the ~5% after all known considerations are take into account, you just choose to accept the theory that-that gap MAY be down to other choices, I on the other hand realise that it COULD be down to discrimination.

So now you can retract your accusation of me being a liar because as I have clearly shown I am not .. unless of course you want to be known also as a liar as much as Soupnazi is.

 

I agree I a m just saying there is your proof. Hillary the champion of women practices in gender pay discrimination.