Is it okay to shout down speakers on campus?

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Is it okay to shout down speakers?

Poll closed Jun 5, 2023.
  1. It's not only "okay," it's sometimes imperative

    11.5%
  2. No, under no circumstances

    53.8%
  3. Yes, but only to stop racists

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Yes, if the speaker makes one feel unsafe or uncomfortable

    3.8%
  5. No, except to stop incitements to violence

    23.1%
  6. Yes, if it serves social justice

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Yes, to smash the fascists!

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. No, unless it's critical of LGBTQIABLT rights, and then it must be squelched

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Other, explain below

    7.7%
  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Just because you don't like the subject, doesn't mean you have to be a twit.
     
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  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    People that shout down invited guest speakers strike me as fearful, insecure snowflakes. I want to tell them to grow the hell up.
     
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  3. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    Depends on the subject: I personally don't wanna hear any input on child labor laws and rights of children from a pedophile and I don't think most people will either.
     
  4. MelshieMaze

    MelshieMaze Well-Known Member

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    See my above post for a bit of context
     
  5. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Convicted, or assumptive?

    If an invited speaker is someone you find of distaste, then don't go to the event.
     
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  6. undertheice

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    you just don't get it, do you. it's not about just you. i know this is a hard pill to swallow for some people, but you don't get to determine what is and is not acceptable for public discourse. not only is this a childish attitude, but it leaves one vulnerable to ignorance of anything outside of their own echo chamber.
     
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    haven't you heard? those two are one and the same.
     
  8. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    That's on the venue. Nothing to do with the First Amendment. That says we both have free speech and if I choose to exercise mine louder than yours that just something you need to deal with.
     
  9. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    My interpretation is the same as everyone who has actually read it. The government cannot silence you because they don't like what you're saying.
     
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    19Crib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then you are first.
     
  11. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    thanks for confirming what I already knew about your views. and if those who want to hear the speaker beat the living crap out of those doing the disrupting-I guess that's fine too?
     
  12. Turtledude

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    if you are interfering with others, they sure can. you need to read up on the law
     
  13. undertheice

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    you have to keep up on current events. this is only considered "fine" if those doing the beating are in agreement with current progressive views.

    personally, i keep getting closer and closer to the viewpoint that "two in the chest and one in the head" is preferable to dealing with all of the drama.
     
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    we used to call that a "Mozambiquing"
     
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  15. undertheice

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    i just call it efficiency.
     
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    Nope. the government cannot silence speech for being speech.
     
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    it can silence those who disrupt lawful gatherings. You go into a movie theater or a church and start screaming your head off, you will be removed and usually charged with DOC
     
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    I don't know=ammo got expensive, why waste two extra rounds :disbelief:
     
  19. undertheice

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    my go to carry is small caliber. two rounds to stop and one to make sure no further rounds are necessary.
     
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    And you can see the results of that kind of sentiment. We have ways to deal with racism, violence or something else close to it. Your method is a very bad one. It doesn't normally work at all. It is fine for you to hate racism. Other people practice it. It doesn't hurt you or anyone else to listen to them. There is no rule that you have to change your mind. It is all rudeness and bad manners. It makes people angry. It doesn't change their minds.
     
  21. MelshieMaze

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    You're right it doesn't hurt me to listen to it but I have no desire nor need to listen to it nor should anyone. Also, people with that mindset are already set in their ways and nothing I say or do will change their minds, they are who and what they wanna be.
     
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    Where does it say you can prevent others at their private events?
     
  23. Bluesguy

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    Not on my dime and my time.
     
  24. MelshieMaze

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    I don't, but in the example I listed earlier, why exactly would I or anyone care about what a pedo thinks are adequate rights for children?
     
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    If you are creating a public disturbance and engzged in disorderly conduct, as in coming to a place I have rented to give my speech and trying to shout me down, it can.
     

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