Is it okay to shout down speakers on campus?

and the question which you never bothered to answer was asked - "convicted or accused". of course, it really doesn't matter. it isn't up to you to decide what others may want to hear.

 

Forgive me, I didn't get a chance to sort through every single response but "convicted" or "proven" is my preference, like say Bryan Singer or Kevin Spacey or Jared from the Subway commercials.

 

What private events were shouted down?

Before you say it speeches at university auditoriums are not private events. Nobody went to these RWNJ's living rooms and shouted them down.

 

so you have a "preference". how nice for you, but the question remains why you believe you have any right to decide for others what information they may choose to explore and shouting down a speaker, any speaker, does just that. while i doubt kevin spacey plans on any speaking tours in the near future, making your example ludicrous to begin with, silencing him would serve no purpose but inflating your own ego.

 

Still on the venue, not the federal government.

You guys should really take a civics class or something.

 

that's complete nonsense. If say Stanford law's chapter of the federalist society invites say John Roberts or Neil Gorsuch to speak, those who would try to prevent others from hearing one of those speakers should be expelled-or worse

 

Shouting isn't usually considered a disorderly conduct in a public venue.

 

that's rich coming from a guy who defends disruption of speeches and allowing thugs to shout down people that are smarter than they are from being heard

 

go into an Easter Mass at St Patrick's and see what happens if you start shouting.
or run onto the football field during a Giants game and start screaming while the game in progress

 

In that particular case they were outside the venue.

Outside exercising their first amendment rights and you want them to get "or worse" after all your babbling about right in other threads.

More hypocrisy.

 

Thanks for proving my point.

 

you are on record supporting woke idiots disrupting speaking events

nothing more needs to be said

 

Would you be happier if I called out "accused" pedos with no actual proof that they did anything?

What it all boils down to, at least on that one subject, is who really cares what Kevin Spacey has to say on that matter? Why should anyone pay any kind of attention to his opinions on the subject matter?

Long story short, fck him and his opinions on that subject.

 

Yes it is if you are interrupting the proceedings. Where do you get the idea you have a right to take over something someone else has paid to put on?

 

Yes they are private events put on by the sponsors of the event.

Again where did you get the idea you have a right to shout down others and deny them their speech?

 

The venue I AM PAYING FOR. You should take a class in civics and proper decorum. Where in your civics class did you learn you have a right under the Constitution to enter a privately held event and shutdown and shout down the event because your don't like what is being said at it? Where did you learn that that is how civil societies should function?

 

no, what it all boils down to is that you seem to think you have some divine right to determine what others can expose themselves to. this is the supreme hubris of cause-heads in general and the whining progressive hordes in particular. their moral high ground is based on a total lack of ethics and humility. this nation was based on the idea of allowing anyone to express themself free from the interference of government or mobs or self-righteous pin-heads of any stripe. it may not be to everyone's liking, but it has enabled unprecedented social growth in the single most diverse nation on earth, where our differences alone should have long since torn us apart. the next time you advocate for silencing anyone, try putting the shoe on the other foot. would you take the same position for klansmen disrupting civil rights rallies? would you have applauded malcom x, an open anti-semite who regularly called for violence, being shouted down by a bunch of middle-class soccer moms?

 

Cool story, bro but I've already made it clear how I feel, and in that situation for example, I don't give a fck about Kevin Spacey's views on children or child's rights at all and I'm pretty sure that I, along with many, many other people wouldn't be bothered if we never heard from him again.

And to answer your questions at the end, the KKK doesn't nor has ever cared about disrupting civil rights rallies so that was a terrible example. Same with the Malcolm X example because I'm pretty sure he was just as good as soccer moms at talking ****.

Oh, and f8ck the Klan and that grand wizard who just died, in case you think I'm supposed to care about their views too.

 

at this point you've made it abundantly clear that you're just trolling and have left good sense behind. i had hoped that you were just a bit dense and really didn't catch on, but it looks like i'm the one who didn't catch on and that all you were interested in was your own tirade. have fun in that alternate universe of yours where the klan has never been involved in attempting to curtail the rights of black americans yet where it seems kevin spacey constantly runs around lecturing on children's rights. it's been fun, but i really don't see the point.

 

that's not always true. The Yale Political union constantly had debates and or speakers and you had to be a dues paying member of the YPU to attend some of the events. It was the same as the Yale Film Society and other similar organizations-they would get one of the biggest lecture hall rooms and show a film--I guarantee if some moron went into that venue and started screaming, he or she would have been arrested by the campus police-and perhaps given a good ass kicking first

 

Are you sure you’re not the dense one here? Because I’ve been using Kevin Spacey as a hypothetical example this whole time. Not at one moment did I say he was doing exactly what you think I said he was doing.

 

So rights don't apply to those with weak voices? The squeaky wheel gets the rights? I have to strongly disagree.

 

what i noticed was that you had no answer for the question. instead you sidestepped by denying historical fact and some weird nonsense about the ability of soccer moms to disrupt malcom x. what you made abundantly clear was that speakers you may disagree with should be shouted down, but not those with whom you have common cause. you simply won't admit it, preferring to play silly little games.

if you are unwilling to allow those with whom you disagree the privilege of speaking their mind, then you don't deserve a platform for your own views. this is something that the perpetual children of progressivism don't seem to understand. instead they rant and rave and stomp their feet whenever they are triggered, believing their entitlement trumps the basic rights of others, and those without that amount of gall simply nod sagely in approval of their antics. for them it's about cowardice.

 

it isn't about the strength of the voice. it's about a complete lack of self-control, something the progressive hordes are consistently guilty of.

 

Sidestepped? How? How did I sidestep or even deny that?

I know I've said repeatedly that the examples I gave are all hypothetical, but I'm gonna say it again in case the other several instances weren't clear enough: I don't give a sh1t about a pedo's views or a Klansmen's views on anything and I never will.