Is the 9/11 Scam Coming Undone?

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  1. LaDairis

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    You are still 600 degrees short if it is liquid aluminum. Either way, it proves thermite was used and the towers were deliberately demo-ed.
     
  2. Ronstar

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    you have no idea who put in thermite, when they did it, where they did it.

    you have nothing. no evidence.

    its 2016. You guys lost.

    :)
     
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    Ah, the desperation of the Zionist facing yet another potential "extinction event" Zionism so richly deserves. Who could possibly have planted that thermite, along with all the giant "jaws of life" cut-bombs??

    Mr. Silverstein, any idea???

    Let's ask Mr. Netanyahu - "This is very good for Israel" - Benji's first comment on 911.

    Those responsible for 911 are from the same precise cause as those who murdered the US Marines in Lebanon in 1982, and who whacked JFK - the cause of the re-conquest of the Biblical Promised Land in Chapter 1 of the Book of Joshua. So, God, Israel's real NE border is the Euphrates River... no wonder Senator Feinstein was in favor of a US invasion of Iraq no matter what the reason...

    Keep shouting us down. The "nobles" in Romania did the same thing, before they got "the point..."
     
  4. Ronstar

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    so where's your evidence of who did it, when, and how?

    got none? thought not.

    ive been following u guys since 2004.

    its now 2016.

    you lost.
     
  5. Ronstar

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    you can't prove that was steel.

    jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning in the twin towers.

    there was furniture, carpeting, machinery, insulation, drywall, etc etc..
     
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    None of that gets to the point of melting aluminum.... or steel.

    Nice try...
     
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    large fires can reach temperatures of 1,200 degrees, which is the melting point of aluminum.

    https://www.doctorfire.com/flametmp.html
     
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    If you can parrot it, it must be true then, especially that stuff about "rising ocean levels" sinking just the Marshall Islands, the Solomon Islands, and every other land mass on the lip of the Pacific Ring of Fire, while nothing else "sinks" at all... not Hawaii, New Zealand, Galapagos, Easter Island...
     
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    large fires can get hot enough to melt aluminum.

    they certainly can get hot enough to cause steel to bend
     
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    Your problem is that the steel in the towers way below the fires was seriously mushy. A cold steel frame would have shish-ke-bobbed the falling top. The towers went MUSH. To get steel that mushy, you need a lot more than 600 degrees, and below the fires, that steel should've been cold. It wasn't.
     
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    the steel way below the fires was just fine.

    no mushy.
     
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    Then those girders should've bent, including some should've bent OUT, through the wall, and none of it bent at all, it just mushed...


    Any metal "rod" bends at its weakest point, like a coathanger. When compressed with substantial force, those girders should've bent at one place and kept on bending. Instead, they went mush mush mush... and the proof of that is on the videos...
     
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    the heat caused the floors to sag, which pulled the outer walls inward.
     
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    How the hell did any eyewitnesses know that it was molten steel? ... Was there a Pittsburgh steelworkers convention in town? ... you need to check yourself Bob ...
     
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    It doesn't matter if they knew for a fact or they didn't, many made that claim, they were there you weren't, there's no way to deny that as much as you try. If a guy says he saw the "melting of girders on 9/11", what do you suppose those girders are made of? How difficult is that to figure out? Is that even a serious question?

    I think you need to check how your mind operates, mine operates just fine, I ask REAL questions. OTOH, rather than you ask some real questions, such as why in **** didn't the US government investigate these many claims and why in **** did John Gross, lead NIST engineer claim he never heard of these claims when they are all over the ****ing place, you question ME and suggest I need to check myself. This is absolute garbage. I didn't make any of this up, the claims are real as day. Maybe they were all hallucinating, maybe they're all 100% correct but why the **** are you questioning me instead of questioning the US government? How fake is that? Why don't you just admit you're here to deny everything that doesn't fit the OCT, that would be an inkling of honesty from you for a change.
     
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    I do not think that there is proof of thermite, but it sure wasn't caused by jet fuel fires.
     
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    There's more than enough of a case that has been made to warrant a legitimate investigation into exotic accelerants, including all forms of thermite/thermate/nano-thermite. Furthermore NFPA protocol requires such an investigation, denial is not part of any standard fire investigation protocol and certainly not the current standard, NFPA. NIST was well aware of both NFPA and thermite:

    http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2008/Ryan_NIST_and_Nano-1.pdf

    Definitive proof can only come from a chemical analysis, which of course was never conducted as part of any official investigation. We only have an unofficial investigation that did include a chemical analysis of 4 independent dust samples.

    No, not a chance, even less so for WTC7 since none was present. That multiple eyewitnesses reported seeing molten steel is unprecedented in any building fire/collapse and especially not for the 40+ high rise infernos that have occurred in the past, including the 1975 WTC fire.
     
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    there is lots of WTC steel floating around.

    go scrape some and check for thermite residue.

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    it is literally impossible to declare that red stuff was steel and not aluminum, from the videos

    the material itself has to be inspected, and its now too late
     
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    By the same token, it is impossible to eliminate one or the other. One can only ponder the possibilities and given the many corroborating eyewitness accounts of molten steel (including an account of melting girders), logic leads to what the most likely possibility is. It is NOT proof and despite that some may believe it's proof, I would want something a lot more definitive myself. In fact, I demand it, unlike some others who dismiss any real investigation into some of these unprecedented eyewitness claims.

    Isn't that just so convenient? Did it ever occur to you why a chemical analysis was never conducted by any official investigation in the first place? That is standard procedure in any fire investigation, especially in a terrorist attack with high order damage. It is not someone else's responsibility to examine the evidence from 9/11, that responsibility rests with the US government or a valid independent international body of appropriate investigators if the US government refuses to do so.
     
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    an eyewitness cannot confirm "molten steel" without actually testing the material.

    only Superman has such ability with just his eyes
     
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    9-11 was a terrorist attack.

    there was no logical reason to assume that explosives took down the buildings, rather than weakened steel due to the fire started by the plane impacts.

    for most experienced architects and engineers, the reasons why the WTC collapsed was pretty clear.
     
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    911 was a Zionist fraud, a hoax, a deliberate "Reichstag Fire" type of event.

    Not one single commercial aircraft crashed on 911. The 767 we all saw hit the South Tower was the CARGO version of the 767, not the passenger. A US made cruise missile hit the Pentagon (just go to youtube and type 911 Pentagon to see it), Shanksville was a ditch with some rusted metal junk deliberately set on fire. As for what caused the initial explosion in the North Tower, I don't have enough info other than to rule out a plane. It most likely was a bomb because the explosion came out all sides equally, and hence originated inside.

    The objective of the traitors behind 911 was to start wars in the Middle East to help Israel re-conquer the Biblical "Promised Land" described in Book of Joshua Ch 1, where Israel's NE border is defined by God as the Euphrates River, which then explains all the lies used to send our heroes in uniform to Iraq.

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    It was either steel or aluminum, which means jet fuel didn't melt it...
     
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    large building fire temps can hit 1,300 degrees.

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    silly anti-Semitism.

    stop blaiming the Jews for all your problems
     
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    Yeah I already said that more or less. Perhaps you missed it.
     

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