Islam and Violence

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  1. JakeStarkey

    JakeStarkey Well-Known Member

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    No, I doubt that you have googled it. I doubt you are the poster you claim to be.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another one who when the are wrong simply turns on the poster and try's to discredit them. Now do tell how I can give you the article I did without looking it up moron?
     
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    To play your game, no, all you have is biased testimony from promoters of the John Adams-myth. Got any unbiased evidence? See how that works?
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does not work at all. We have first party testimony, documents in his hand writing and good historical records, we have his signature on important documents, we have paintings done at the time of him, property records and so much more. It really is very sad if you are unable to comprehend the difference between a figure like John Adams and something like your Jesus who is much like King Arthur or Robin Hood.
     
  5. JakeStarkey

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    Jesus has more documentation of his existence than his detractors.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    So what do you have.

    and please don't say in the bible.
    It was written long after his death by people who never met him.

    And LOLOL

    Google is not an answer.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So here is Richard Carrier one of the main detractors of the Jesus myth,

    Not much doubt he exists, now how about you providing the evidence that the hippy on a stick existed?
     
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    Atheists are merely believers as non-believers with no facts that deity does not exist.
     
  9. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    So you have no answer for the statement you made, so you try to put it on someone else by calling them names.
    Nobody cares what atheists believe or don't believe.
    That has nothing to do with what you claimed.
     
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    I have no need for statements of what I believe about atheism. I know that atheists can't prove that deity does not exist.

    The arguments for atheism are as silly as the hatred to Islam.
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    LOLOL

    Nobody is making arguments for, or against atheism.

    We are waiting for your proof that Jesus exists.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No reason an atheist would want to prove a deity does not exist, if you believe one does show some evidence, but you do not and cannot. So not only do you not understand what atheism is you make false claims about them.
     
  13. JakeStarkey

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    I know that the evidence supports the existence, that it laughs at atheism, and who cares about Islam other than will it outgrow its violence.
     
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    LOLOL

    what evidence.
     
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    You have none that deity does not exist.
     
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    That was really d--b.
    I never made any claims.

    You made claims.
    You said you have evidence for Jesus.
    we asked you to show your evidence.
    You made every excuse you could, and still have not shown the evidence.
     
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    OK, then you do not claim that deity does not exist.

    Thank you.
     
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    All I claimed is that you made a statement and refused to back it up.
    Even refused to admit you could not back it up.
     
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    If it were important, I would have told you so.
     
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    Which deity?

    Atheists don't have to prove or disprove existence of deities. Throughout history believers did a pretty good job of disproving deities' existence - their own deities - by changing their religion. Funny enough, none of the dead and forgotten deities ever came back to reclaim the throne.

    I don't have proof that five legged giant talking mushrooms don't exist. Does that mean they exist?
     
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  21. JakeStarkey

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    Does not matter which deity? Atheists have neither the symbols, logic, or language to disprove the existence of deity.

    Your fallacy of false equivalency is cute.
     
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    Because they do not need to, it is like being asked to prove the Lochness Monster or Bigfoot does not exist. YOU make the claim about your hippy on a stick, provide the evidence or shut the **** up!
     
  23. JakeStarkey

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    I make no claim other than I believe, and I leave the fallacies of false equivalency to your gang.
     
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    Really, so this is not a claim then!
     
  25. JakeStarkey

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    That is a fallacy of kind not degree. I said there is more documentation that he lived than there is for you, not that he is God. But, yeah, I believe that. That's no problem to me but will be for you, ese.
     

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