Islam and Violence

Yes.

 

Like I said, it is a tiny, nut group that doesn't believe in the historical Jesus. All those disciples got themselves killed because of a myth, huh? Who gained?

 

That's a question historians can answer. My guess is that there was no need to reform, not until the Muslim world itself had to choose between tradition and progress.

 

Wow. Thank you.

 

Look at the map. The Catholics are in the Yellow part. And they have their land. The reason the bulk of violence was where the Catholics are is because there are also Protestants there too who prefer being under the British rule. Catholics no doubt want the entire country of Ireland which is highly unlikely to happen.



We see how here in America we see posters screaming traitors at those who were the Confederates. The purposes of wars though complex, could be boiled down to I want what you have and will fight to keep what I have and take what you have.

 

The text is very plain,
How can it be re-interpretated.

It says what it says.

Are you saying re-write the religion, eliminate Muhammed.
That's what it needs, but that ain't gonna happen.

 

I just checked the CIA Factbook and it alleges 78.3 percent of all of Ireland are Catholics. And about 5 million 68 thousand live in the entire country.

I had thought a lot more people lived there.

https://www.cia.gov/-library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ei.html

Northern Ireland (Irish: Tuaisceart Éireann [ˈt̪ˠuəʃcəɾˠt̪ˠ ˈeːɾʲən̪ˠ] (listen);[7]Ulster-Scots: Norlin Airlann) is a part of the United Kingdom in the north-east of the island of Ireland,[8][9] variously described as a country, province or region.[10][11][12] Northern Ireland shares a border to the south and west with the Republic of Ireland. In 2011, its population was 1,810,863,[4] constituting about 30% of the island's total population and about 3% of the UK's population. Established by the Northern Ireland Act 1998 as part of the Good Friday Agreement, the Northern Ireland Assembly holds responsibility for a range of devolved policy matters, while other areas are reserved for the British government. Northern Ireland co-operates with the Republic of Ireland in some areas, and the Agreement granted the Republic the ability to "put forward views and proposals" with "determined efforts to resolve disagreements between the two governments".[13]

Northern Ireland was created in 1921, when Ireland was partitioned between Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland by the Government of Ireland Act 1920. Unlike Southern Ireland, which would become the Irish Free State in 1922, the majority of Northern Ireland's population were unionists, who wanted to remain within the United Kingdom.[14] Most of these were the Protestant descendants of colonists from Great Britain. However, a significant minority, mostly Catholics, were nationalists who wanted a united Ireland independent of British rule.[15][16][17][18] Today, the former generally see themselves as British and the latter generally see themselves as Irish, while a distinct Northern Irish or Ulsteridentity is claimed both by a large minority of Catholics and Protestants and by many of those who are non-aligned.[19]

For most of the 20th century, when it came into existence, Northern Ireland was marked by discrimination and hostility between these two sides in what First Minister of Northern Ireland, David Trimble, called a "cold house" for Catholics. In the late 1960s, conflict between state forces and chiefly Protestant unionists on the one hand, and chiefly Catholic nationalists on the other, erupted into three decades of violence known as the Troubles, which claimed over 3,500 lives and caused over 50,000 casualties.[20][21] The 1998 Good Friday Agreement was a major step in the peace process, including the decommissioning of weapons, although sectarianism and religious segregation still remain major social problems, and sporadic violence has continued.[22]

Northern Ireland has historically been the most industrialised region of Ireland. After declining as a result of the political and social turmoil of the Troubles,[23] its economy has grown significantly since the late 1990s. The initial growth came from the "peace dividend" and the links which increased trade with the Republic of Ireland, continuing with a significant increase in tourism, investment and business from around the world. Unemployment in Northern Ireland peaked at 17.2% in 1986, dropping to 6.1% for June–August 2014 and down by 1.2 percentage points over the year,[24] similar to the UK figure of 6.2%.[25] 58.2% of those unemployed had been unemployed for over a year.

Prominent artists and sportspeople from Northern Ireland include Van Morrison, Rory McIlroy, Joey Dunlop, Wayne McCullough and George Best. Some people from Northern Ireland prefer to identify as Irish (e.g., poet Seamus Heaney and actor Liam Neeson) while others prefer to identify as British (e.g. actor Sir Kenneth Branagh). Cultural links between Northern Ireland, the rest of Ireland, and the rest of the UK are complex, with Northern Ireland sharing both the culture of Ireland and the culture of the United Kingdom. In many sports, the island of Ireland fields a single team, a notable exception being association football. Northern Ireland competes separately at the Commonwealth Games, and people from Northern Ireland may compete for either Great Britain or Ireland at the Olympic Games.

 

Please Robert your ignorance is blinding!
Just astonishing how bad the knowledge of Americans is, I mean basic stuff like the Republic of Ireland (Southern Ireland) is predominantly Catholic should be common knowledge, but what really amazes me is that they are prepared to argue with someone who lived there. What the hell has happened to the US education system? Why do you revel in complete ignorance so ****ing much?

 

I was going to just ignore that unneeded jab but to alert you, I won't reply next time to snark.

In the case of what you blasted me over, I later corrected my comments to reflect actual conditions in Ireland. I got a false impression from PBS is why I said my first comment.

 

No the really amazing thing is that you way in against someone who lived there and pronounce you are correcting them. It is astonishing the arrogance of you people!

 

What are you talking about, you don't even think Jesus lived. Did Muhammad not live either?

 

Probably not, he was a composite of several figures much like Jesus. In the times of your christ in particular there were a lot of messianic figures. Do you believe Mohamed existed?

 

(1) Christianity about 1200 years went crazy went the Church went to torture and execution for apostasy and refusal to submit to Christian clergy and kings. Islam is not alone in that.

(2) Slavery has been practiced for millennia at times in Christian, Jewish, and Islamic domains.

Please offer a real reason why Islam cannot stop its violence.

 

Oh, by the by: there is more evidence lived than for many of His modern day detractors.

 

LOLOL

If you cannot understand it the 10th time you are told.
why do you think you will understand it the 11th.

 

^^^^

 

Even very plain texts can be reinterpreted. Just ask a rabbi. Or google "pilpul".

I dare you find two imams who agree on all possible interpretations of the very plain texts of Islam. Even Salafism is not monolithic, despite strict literal interpretation of the texts.

 

Yep. Kind of like the way of those who claim to know a certain country in the Levant better than the people who live there. Arrogance doesn't even begin to describe this kind of attitude.

 

Israel is a racist state and people like you try to hide that and hide the terrorist scum who created that state using revisionist history and lies.

 

Thank you for making my point.

 

If I had suggested that the West Bank was the Israel state and the rest was Palestinian occupied territory you may have had a point, but time over I have shown where you were economical with the truth about historical records and the terrorist scum who created Israel. Your terrorist scum murdered brits as they were saving Jews from the gas chambers, and you ungratefully call the brits Perfidious Albion when cowards like Begin chose to kill British civilians rather than take on the Nazis in his own country, feel free to disprove anything I have said!

 

I like to go to experts on topics such as this.

 

After you were told I corrected my remarks, you still want to keep this fight going? Why?

 

That made no sense whatsoever

One of my favorite verses.

"Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

what do you Interpretate that to mean.

I Interpretate it to mean.

"Just issue orders to kill every Jew in the country."

 

No one has been able to answer if or if not Islam can shed violence as did Christianity and Judaism shed their horrific violence against humanity.