Give it up, moon. The inconvenient questions to answer is not your forte - only these you have prepared answers for, or these for which readily available Palestinian propaganda is at hand are tackled by you. Very evident this is. There. Are you going to watch Oscars? My wife will
The evidence is in HRW's decision to send a BDS proponent as its representative. Someone with that background cannot be expected to be a fair and impartial observer. Which brings us to the question of why HRW didn't submit someone with a neutral background. None of the possible answers to that question reflect well on HRW. No, one does not have to subscribe to your illogical "shoot the messenger" fallacy - all they have to do is present the facts. One of the most problematic aspects of your fallacious argument is that one cannot expect the Left to be open, honest and critical about itself, so naturally one would have to look to sources beyond the Left to find such information. To be fair and honest, this problem often applies to the Right, as well. Furthermore, since you're not an American I don't expect you to know this, bit it's common knowledge that the CCR is a Leftist legal foundation just as it's common knowledge that Judicial Watch is a Right Wing legal foundation. The SPLC is considered by many to be a Far Left organization, as well, so its designations often don't count for much. The Left in America is famous for labeling anyone who doesn't agree with its views as "racist", "hateful", etc., in order to delegitimize and silence them. As for the DHFC, it is open and honest about being a Right Wing, pro-Israel group. It doesn't pretend to be ideologically neutral like HRW does. No one suggested that it is objective. The only group that some people are trying to pretend is objective here is HRW. That comment is nothing more than Leftist propaganda. In reality, it is the Left that has refused to respect the democratic outcomes of the recent elections in the UK and USA that resulted in the Brexit and Donald Trump’s election. In America, we’ve seen violent manifestations of the Left’s disrespect for our democratic process and other people’s human, civil and political rights. The authoritarian “progressive” Left in America is showing it’s true colors - the only things it cares about are power and control, not democracy, human rights and the rule of law. In this respect, the Left hasn’t changed since its inception during the French Revolution. You’re entitled to your opinion about HRW and the DHFC but that’s all they are - opinions, - and naturally your opinions are colored by your own biases. For the record, I did not provide any information on HRW. The only information I provided was on 1) Mr. Shakir and 2) a Leftist legal foundation (the CCR). Furthermore, the DTN report was cited in reference to the CCR, not the individual who was employed by that organization. The information provided about Mr. Shakir, such as his defense of Guantanamo Bay terrorists, was provided in his own HRW bio. LOL - What a preposterous remark. The Right’s exposure of Cultural Marxism is not an effort to move anyone or anything away from democracy. It is an effort to expose and criticize the ideology, agenda and tactics of the Far Left. Naturally, this upsets the Far Left in this country because their the ideology, agenda and tactics don’t play well with most Americans who don’t share their nihilism and radicalism. Most Americans simply want to improve their country and government - they don’t want to fundamentally transform them. I used to be a New Leftist, alexa. I know what Cultural Marxism is, and I know what it’s all about - power and control. No, that’s not what Cultural Marxism is about, nor is it what the criticism of Cultural Marxism is about. No one on the Right credits the Frankfurt School for being responsible for Equal Rights, human rights, etc., Those things were promulgated and established long before the Frankfurt School even existed. Even the concept of equal outcomes (what some Leftists mistakenly refer to as “equal rights” and the abolition of private property were promoted long before the Frankfurt School existed. To be perfectly honest with you, I don’t think the Left has had an original idea since the days of François-Noël Babeuf and the French Revolution. The Right doesn’t connect Political Correctness to human rights. The whole intent against PC is against Leftist thought and speech control which is used to enforce ideological rigidity and conformity. All you’re offering here are excuses, not a debate. If you refuse to read the report you can’t dispute its content, and I explicitly gave you the opportunity to challenge that content. I’m not sure what you were up to with that red herring, but I reject your claim that the DHRC is trying to destroy human rights. Exposing the background of Leftist groups does not even remotely resemble destroying human rights. I know who David Horowitz is, and if you knew more about him you would know that he doesn’t associate his colleague’s death with anything involving human rights. This thread is about more than Israel - it is about HRW and its credibility (or lack thereof), as well. It is also about the wider issue of groups that present themselves as fair and impartial HR NGOs when they are, in fact, nothing more than biased Left-wing political action groups. You get real - I never suggested anything you just said. I stated that you are entitled to your opinions like everyone else.
talon; Where - on your personal scale of war crimes judgements- do you locate the Goldstone report ? Biased and left-wing ? The neoZionists reacted to the skewering criticisms contained therein in the same way that they react to any criticism of their unacceptable behavior - ' biased and left-wing ' . Certainly Goldstone isn't and neither are the NGOs that the fascist Knesset would like to ban, burn or otherwise politically exterminate.
After reading Richard Goldstone's mea culpa I don't know how the report could rank high on anyone's list, but I have to wonder what your question has to do with Leftist political action groups that masquerade as HR NGOs. Instead of comparing apples to accordions, perhaps you should have raised the issue of the credibility, or lack thereof, of the UNHRC. I have a feeling the critics of the report were more inclined to question the credibility of the UN and its "human rights commission", and with good reason. As for Mr. Goldstone and HRW, their credibility and objectivity have to be judged individually. As for "political extermination", I have to wonder if HRW was just trying to stir up negative publicity against Israel when it proposed sending a BDS advocate to that country to masquerade as its fair and impartial human rights observer. The headline certainly got the anti-Israeli xenophobes who are quick to spew their hatred at Israel up in arms, but for everyone else who knew better than to trust HRW and the media on this, a quick look into Mr. Shakir's background revealed that Israel's objections were reasonable in this case. I must admit, I almost fell for this negative publicity stunt. This has to be one of the worst cases of a HR NGO undermining its own credibility that I have ever seen. I can see why so many people consider HRW a joke.
The conclusions of the Goldstone Report still stand- despite the poor man's efforts at appeasement in order to get the neozionist character assassins off the backs of himself and his family. It will all come out at The Hague.
Yes. But not the way you hope for. And not all. And not out of The Hague. Come to think of it, nothing will come out at all
Goldstone didn't write the report himself, members of the secretariat did all the work and the writting, and the report certainly is biased and very far-left wing. One of the writers was Grietje Baars, a self-described Marxist with a radical Marxist critique of law and capitalism as her doctoral thesis. Other writer was Amnesty's Sareta Ashraph, an anti-Israel activist. The head of the secretariat, Francesca Marotta, was at the time scheduled to participate in an anti-Israel lobbying event supporting the Russel tribunal for Palestine. Very nice, not biased, not left wing people...maybe in a parallel world. I'll answer here your post about Wikipedia's entry on neo-Zionism. The term is wrong because it artificially lumps together concepts that are not always automatically and necessarily linked to one another: political right, far-right, religious extremism, racism, ultra-nationalism. Linking those notions to one another and to Zionism presents a distorted image of Zionism itself, as if it spawned some unique ideological monster (which I believe to be the reason you like this term so much). In fact, those concepts are common to all human societies throughout history.
I got no orders to follow, you are the pawn here, brain washed and violent you turn on Jews around the world because you can't touch Israel and that's the sum of your efforts, international terror.
You are trying to sell the immorality of a pariah state which assassinates its political opponents in foreign countries. The world has seen enough of ' Israeli morality '. Go home- while you've still got a legitimate home to go to.
You give me too much credit, Im just speaking my mind that's all, unlike you I got no followers here and no agenda, I certainly dont post here every day about Palestinian terror or "education" system to prove a point.
I post in order to oppose your foul and illegal occupation. When you go home I'll have no need to oppose it.
Should not have started seven wars on Israel. Should have negotiated in good faith with Israel And, probably, today you'd have your own country. As it is well... keep opposing.
Was it not your lot which assassinated Israeli athletes, in foreign country, during Olympic Games? Quit complaining.
Ah- a rare event. Focus on these; List of Israeli assassinations The following is a list of alleged and confirmed assassinations reported to have been conducted by the State of Israel. It includes attempts on notable persons who were reported to have been specifically targeted by the various Israeli security, intelligence and law enforcement agencies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations Jewish Terrorists Assassinate U.N. Peacekeeper Count Folke Bernadotte http://www.wrmea.org/1995-september...-u.n.-peacekeeper-count-folke-bernadotte.html Now- was that before or after Munich, 1972 ? Give it up, Meg. Israel is so rotten that you can't win a point.
More like a never-ending affair going back to the 7th Century. What do you call what your pals in ISIS have been doing? An infrequent incident? I call it more of the same.
Huh... funny how almost ALL of the people Israel assassinates are terrorist criminals...... have you read your own link? It seems your ready to claim America wrongfully assassinated bin laden, too. Are you really going to claim the men on this list are not terrorists? Because I will sit here and go through each member on that list with you and discuss their extra curricular activities. Go ahead. Defend the indefensible.
I concede that one. Zionist terrorists killed him. they were wrong to do so. On to the next most recent one listed on the wiki page. Heres your link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_assassinations And heres the most recent, one Mir Mohammad Al zarawi, chief of HAMAS. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/...ssassination-drone-chief-161217174004082.html - - - Updated - - - Oh, and while your at it, explain how these suicide bombings are okay. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
That's an admission of criminality that you've made unconsciously. You clearly aren't interested in the fact that assassination is murder- you are only interested in attempting to demonstrate that the victim 'deserved it' You're an assassination supporter- a criminal accomplice. That's typical neoZionism and another reason for decent folk to want to see it crushed and gone forever. Is it any wonder that these ' normalizers '; of murder want to ban Human Rights Watch from watching them ?
Lemme get this straight. You are right about the murder in the 40s, but now you don't want to address anything current? Are you already done with our conversation? How evasive. Didn't even directly respond to me.
What do you call what the Jews are doing? Killing anybody who resist being ethnic cleansed since 1948.
