It’s Official: Democrats Are Performing Better After The Abortion Ruling

Nope that is you along with your refusing to actually debate here.

Try again

Do you believe the moment before a baby who was the product of a rape is about to be born the mother should be able to decide to kill it instead? Do you put that human LIFE below your concerns for the mothers FEELINGS?

 

Even prior to Roe being overturned most States - even the liberal ones - had a 21 - 24 threshold for abortion in all but the most dire
medical emergencies. Viability outside the womb has generally been accepted as a cut off point (no fetus has survived outside the womb under
21 weeks in even the best medical surroundings).

 

Because you're no woman,and you're no doctor.

 

if your saying miscarriages are not abortions, that is you trying to change the definition of words

 

You're probably right about pro-choise repubs.
And I can understand many repubs vote for their "morality" reasons; probably also because many are more "religious", although that "religious" character too often translates to bigotry.
And they quite easily forget their "morality" when they vote for a despicable and atheist hypocrite.

 

Nope that is you and the progressives trying to make abortion, the purposeful killing of an unborn baby up to the moment it is born more palatable.

Introduction
Miscarriages are extremely common, occurring in up to an estimated 30% of all pregnancies. However, pregnancy loss is often poorly understood and conflated with induced abortions; for example, terms like “induced miscarriage” have been used to imply intent to end pregnancy, while “spontaneous abortion” is a medical term for a miscarriage. This brief clarifies how pregnancy loss is distinct from abortion, while highlighting the similarities in their management. It also focuses on how abortion policies may impact miscarriage care. At a time when abortion restrictions around the country are increasing, laws may limit providers’ ability to manage pregnancy loss and that women experiencing pregnancy loss may be investigated to prove their miscarriages were unintentional. This brief examines how policies aimed at limiting abortion may have negative consequences on people experiencing pregnancy loss.

What is pregnancy loss?
How pregnancy loss is categorized largely depends on when in the pregnancy it occurred. The U.S. medical community most often defines miscarriage (also called spontaneous abortion) as the spontaneous loss of a nonviable, intrauterine pregnancy before 20 weeks gestational age (GA), while stillbirth (also called fetal death and intrauterine fetal demise) describes this event at ≥ 20 weeks GA. A late stillbirth or late intrauterine fetal demise occurs after 28 weeks. Pregnancy loss serves as an umbrella term for all gestational ages (see Glossary for definitions of non-viable and intrauterine). Consensus around these terms does not fully exist; for example, other countries use different gestational ages to distinguish miscarriage from stillbirth, while many journalists use miscarriage to describe pregnancy loss at any stage of pregnancy. The terms miscarriage and stillbirth have been found to be preferred by people experiencing these events, therefore will be used in this brief as opposed to alternative terms (Appendix B).

Common symptoms of pregnancy loss include vaginal bleeding and cramping, which may prompt presentation to a healthcare facility. Alternatively, some miscarriages and stillbirths have no symptoms and are discovered during routine prenatal care (for example, when cardiac activity cannot be found).

How are miscarriages different from abortions?
Medical providers often refer to miscarriages as spontaneous abortions, or by its subcategories including missed, incomplete and inevitable abortions (see Glossary). These terms are distinct from a voluntary termination of a pregnancy, commonly referred to as an abortion, or as an “induced or therapeutic” abortion in medical terms. Despite this, lawmakers have used “induced miscarriage” or “procuring a miscarriage” to describe intentional attempts to terminate a pregnancy, exemplifying how miscarriage and abortion are easily conflated. To clarify, miscarriages and stillbirths refer to the spontaneous death of an embryo or fetus, but not to the elective termination of pregnancy.

And abortion law is not about miscarriage it is about INDUCED PURPOSEFUL abortions................your attempt to conflate it noted.

 

Non-sequitur, try again

Why do you need a compromise to ban the killing of a baby the moment before it is born?

 

No it hasn't it was some vague undefined undeterminable point the court in it's unscientific/medical position tried to create as some monumental moment it a persons life.

 

Resorting to as hom fallacies only reveals ones inability to defend a position on merit. This is not about me. This is about life for the poor and middle under Dem control and you cannot make a case that they are better off. I can make a strong case that they are worse off.

When it comes to shoving personal beliefs down our throats, abortion laws are absolutely an overreach. Dems are just a little worse on this issue.

 

What is clear is that no side will succeed to convince the other.

I don't know if the abolition of Roe vs Wade will play a essential role in the 2022 and/or 2024 elections,

In both elections, the crux will be: do people want to live in the 21rst century or go back at least 60 years, when life, and society as a whole, was completely different? In many respects, life was then simpler and I can understand the nostalgia of many people. But life goes on, society goes on!

Personally, I do not like abortion, but I don't accept that the anti-abortion side is trying to impose their religious and/or moral convictions to the rest of the population.
You are against abortion? OK, don't do it then.

Maybe an anecdote, that I learned during a stay in Korea years ago, is worth considering: in Korea, age is calculated by adding one year to actual birthday age, in order to take into account the time spent in the womb. (And another year is added on every New Year day).
Despite that tradition, abortion has ceased to be illegal on January 1, 2021, after 66 years of illegal status.

 

What is blatantly clear is that every woman citizen of voting age needs to have her voice heard on her bodily autonomy in November 2022 and remember why this is a right that was so easily taken away and by whom..

 

Independents have had enough of Joe.

 

miscarriages are also called spontaneous abortions

your attempt to redefine words is noted

 

Nope you added a qualifier word, an "abortion" is a purposeful killing of an unborn baby.

Did you have some point here or just being argumentative. Are you pro-miscarrage or something?

 

miscarriages are abortions, just not medically induced ones, they are spontaneous abortions... but still abortions just the same

I could ask the same..... Did you have some point here or just being argumentative. Are you pro-miscarrage or something?

 

But monkey noted. Abortion LAW is not about miscarriages not debate the issue ELECTIVE abortion.

 

never said it was

 

You injected it into the discussion not me.

 

I never said it was, that was only in your head

 

Women Are So Fired Up to Vote, I’ve Never Seen Anything Like It

In the weeks following the leak of a draft ruling in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization case, which all but guaranteed the end of abortion protections under Roe v. Wade, it initially seemed this pattern would hold. About three weeks after the leak, a CNN analyst claimed that “the Republican wave is building fast” heading into the midterm elections. In late May, the highly respected election analysts at The Cook Political Report increased their estimate of how many House seats the G.O.P. would gain. The discussion was focused on not whether the November general election would be a red wave but rather just how big a wave it would be.

But once the actual Dobbs decision came down, everything changed. For many Americans, confronting the loss of abortion rights was different from anticipating it. In my 28 years of analyzing elections, I had never seen anything like what’s happened in the past two months in American politics: Women are registering to vote in numbers I never witnessed before. I’ve run out of superlatives to describe how different this moment is, especially in light of the cycles of tragedy and eventual resignation of recent years. This is a moment to throw old political assumptions out the window and to consider that Democrats could buck historic trends this cycle.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/03/opinion/women-voters-roe-abortion-midterms.html

Hell hath no fury..............................

 

Walker's lead 3 of the last 4 polls.

Walker's on a polling streak in GA

'Herschel Walker, the Republican Senate candidate in Georgia, has a 3-point lead against Sen. Raphael Warnock (D.), according to a poll out Thursday—the third survey in a row to find Walker ahead.'

Momentum

'Forty-seven percent of likely voters said they are backing the former NFL star, versus 44 percent for Warnock, according to the Fox 5/Insider Advantage poll.'

Breaking tackles.

'The findings indicate that the momentum has shifted in the highly competitive race since July, when the same poll found Warnock up by 3 points. Walker now leads by half a point in the RealClearPolitics polling average, after spending much of the summer trailing Warnock.'

 

Between their stacked scotus’ extremist overreach and trump’s interminable meddling, the midterms could become a historic anomaly for repubs, proving yet again that everything trump touches turns to ****.

 

FAKE NEWS.

On May 2nd it was leaked that Roe would be overturned and 538 had Biden at 42% approval.
Today 538 has Biden at 42% approval.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

Biden's Dirtbags at the FBI/DOJ

 

Really?

In early June RCP was projecting a GOP +25 seats
Today it's GOP +30 seats.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2022/house/elections-map_race_changes.html

“STUDENTS DEMAND” IS AN ODD PHRASE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT: Pitt students still demand resources to cope with Roe reversal.

 

Trusting women to make the right personal decision for themselves rather than having authoritarian politicians and bureaucrats dictating impersonal edicts to them one way or another is an affirmation of America's love of freedom and contempt for government intrusion and coercion (although Canada's refraining from government meddling does not appear to be the consensus position in the U.S.)

Ideologues abrogating established personal liberty is clearly repugnant to the American electorate.

A predicted ‘red wave’ crashed into wall of abortion rights support on Tuesday
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A surge in turnout among people motivated by the erosion of abortion rights carried Democrats to victory in races for governor, Senate, attorney general and state legislatures — defying predictions that the issue had faded for voters in the months since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.

Tuesday’s results likely ensure that millions of people will be able to legally terminate a pregnancy going forward — and bolster progressives’ arguments that reproductive rights is a winning issue that Democrats and their allies should pursue aggressively in the years ahead.

The abortion-rights campaign also prevailed in ballot measure fights in swing states like Michigan and GOP strongholds like Kentucky, while candidates up and down the ballot in Pennsylvania benefited from voters concerned with preserving access...

[A]bout 60 percent of voters said they were dissatisfied or angry with the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, according to both that exit poll and AP Votecast...

Abortion’s impact was especially evident in two swing states — Pennsylvania and Michigan — where Democrats in tight races at all levels of government won following campaigns that contrasted their opponents’ anti-abortion views with pledges to defend the procedure.

Michigan Democrats, who campaigned on their opposition to the state’s 1931 near-total abortion ban and ran on newly drawn maps that made districts more competitive, flipped control of the state Legislature for the first time in decades.

And in Pennsylvania, where Democrat John Fetterman flipped a red Senate seat blue, 36 percent of voters said abortion was the most important issue to them, compared to 29 percent for inflation, according to the National Election Pool exit poll...

Abortion-rights supporters are also poised to sweep all six of the ballot measures before voters this year that will determine access to the procedure — fueling arguments that constitutional amendments present the best path for protecting abortion in a post-Roe world.

“It’s a repudiation of [Republicans’] extreme anti-choice agenda that is out of step with most voters’ values and beliefs,” said Rachel Sweet, the leader of the successful campaign to defeat an anti-abortion constitutional amendment in deep-red Kentucky. “While we may not all agree on abortion, we do agree that the government needs to stay out of our personal lives and that women, their families and their doctors are the ones who should be making these decisions, not politicians.”​